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Evlon wrote:

Seemed more like a "we don't care" attitude, frankly. (ps, even a simple "we have read your concerns, however we have already discussed this at length and are sticking to the original plan, is BETTER than silence.)


They have had this attitude toeards us for years now and since UBISOFT took over it has gotten worsedefault smiley (d)
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By Retired breeder, 27th August 2014 14:00:20
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I know that I may not have the qualifications to speak of the "good ole days" but when I started, I was surprised with all the promos. And I enjoyed them.
And then all the repeated promos started to wear. However, they were varied, and all the new ones were fresh and exciting.
Eventually, I started to lament the fact that I wasn't able to complete any of the promos.
And then I didn't care.
And now I'm sad that they took it away.
And I have four Divines from the GC (two Winters, Tianma, Shenma). I think I would have rather had all the items that came with the promos, though.
And now we have my favorite promo: Cards default smiley <:o) This is my third time through them. Still would rather have more promos and less GC~

As for the EC's, if I can get a Dressage skiller, my lessons should go up to 59-60E and I can skill in my EC again... All the horses in there right now are Divines.
I enjoy taking the horses out of my EC. Really, I do. I use my EC for foal games (perfect meadows, carrots, showers), and BLUPping (though I do speed-BLUP to positive occasionally) and to kill pass horses, believe it or not, especially if there's a high lesson gain at that point. If I don't let the skiller out, my lessons and my prestige don't drop.
All of my boxes are reserved for either me, a friend of mine, or another friend of mine. Rarely do I let anyone else use it (health mashes aren't hard to get, but I don't use them, so I rarely make them).
I am looking forward to being able to set the duration for 3 days; I rarely board above that. But some saved search features my AP farmers use are two months long so they don't have to board often... How will my saved search settings be affected?
And back to reservations... my best friend in real life plays this game, and we were talking last night and ranting to each other that they couldn't possibly take out reservations because of all our hard work. Her EC's better than mine.
By Retired breeder, 27th August 2014 14:01:22
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remove infertile meadows.
Is this true, and is it smart to buy large infertile meadows, therefore they turn into fertile meadows?
One 15 acre infertile field will become 2 10acre fertile fields. It sounds like a good swap to me.default smiley :d I have no problems with that part of the new updates.
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By Retired breeder, 27th August 2014 14:15:14
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I have heard that they are going to
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remove infertile meadows.
Is this true, and is it smart to buy large infertile meadows, therefore they turn into fertile meadows?
That's what I did. Two fertile medium meadows costs more than one infertile large meadow.
By Retired breeder, 27th August 2014 14:16:20
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Really getting sort of concerned here. My lessons just hit 57e and I'd like to start skilling horses in there. I was going to spend 19 of my passes to buy some showers and box 3's to get better boarders; however I'm a little concerned what will happen with new changes.
If there's no more reserving boxes, I daresay 60e lessons will be ruined and skilling will be messed up as well.
I have no clue where the "reserving boxes" rumor came from but it seems to have struck everyone worried. default smiley :@
By Retired breeder, 27th August 2014 14:20:27
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I have no clue where the "reserving boxes" rumor came from but it seems to have struck everyone worried. default smiley :@

On the test version they said 'ownership of boxes is removed'. I'm not sure (I really hope) whether ownership is the same as reserving, but everyone seems to think it is....
On my own version I have 60e lessons since 2 months and I really don't want to see al the hard work go up in smoke default smiley (b)
By Retired breeder, 27th August 2014 14:24:09
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Retired breeder wrote:

Really getting sort of concerned here. My lessons just hit 57e and I'd like to start skilling horses in there. I was going to spend 19 of my passes to buy some showers and box 3's to get better boarders; however I'm a little concerned what will happen with new changes.
If there's no more reserving boxes, I daresay 60e lessons will be ruined and skilling will be messed up as well.
I have no clue where the "reserving boxes" rumor came from but it seems to have struck everyone worried. default smiley :@
There was a post a few pages back (pg 521, I think) that said something along the lines of "box ownership is removed," which is where the idea of not being able to reserve boxes originated. Someone else said they've asked on the test server, but haven't gotten any answers on what that means yet.

Maybe spend less than 19 passes and board any dressage horses you have in your EC to continue raising lessons? (That's what I did. I saved up a lot of equus from crops and passes from horse sales to be able to buy only 3*** boxes and showers, then I boarded my own horses, and found people who were willing to board boosters until my lessons hit 58e, then I opened my doors to other skillers and foals. I'm just now starting to allow divines, since my lessons have stayed at 58e.)
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Box changes Ownership is removeddefault smiley :oPlease explain in more detail as the above is very frightening to me, would the above mean I can no longer keep my ec private and reserve all my boxes to both my friends and / or just myself?? kazdefault smiley :s

It's a very good question. We're still waiting for a reply

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It would be one of the worst moves to delete the possibility of reserving boxes. Don't know what to say really. All the work, what for ? If I, the EC owner and builder can't do with my EC whatever suits me best, why work for it ? And why pay for VIP perks like cancelling boarding of my own horses ? And why play at all if I had the chance to train all horses I want in good conditions and this just gets taken away ?

Very good question.
And what about the low GP horses. I deliberately choose to board my low GP blups in my own EC. It will eventually lover the overall prestige. But that is my choice.

Very good point Miss Blue. I totally agree.

Lil Sunny wrote:

I really hope they clarify this ridiculous change soon, as I am sure there are many players, including regular pass buyers, who will not support it.

Yes

Retired breeder wrote:

Maybe we have missunderstood the box ownership thing. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't take away our ability to reserve boxes.

I hope your right
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I do not comment in here often but this time it is just too much. All of those of us who have the little gp horses will have to quit the game. I spend real money on this game to buy passes for my little horses. It doesn't matter to me that they are not the top horses on the game but it does matter to me that I can reserve boxes for them in my ec. It is my ec or is it yours? I am not sure I can even stay on the game with all the ec changes as it is but the final one is the straw that will break the camel's back. The proposed changes are confusing and horrible and I don't like any of them, but if I can't board my own horses then what is the point at all. Howrse you are really dropping the ball.(Sorry for all the cliches but they are better than the words I want to use which would be censored)
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By Retired breeder, 27th August 2014 14:42:41
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Gail 364 wrote:

I do not comment in here often but this time it is just too much. All of those of us who have the little gp horses will have to quit the game. I spend real money on this game to buy passes for my little horses. It doesn't matter to me that they are not the top horses on the game but it does matter to me that I can reserve boxes for them in my ec. It is my ec or is it yours? I am not sure I can even stay on the game with all the ec changes as it is but the final one is the straw that will break the camel's back. The proposed changes are confusing and horrible and I don't like any of them, but if I can't board my own horses then what is the point at all. Howrse you are really dropping the ball.(Sorry for all the cliches but they are better than the words I want to use which would be censored)
We aren't totally sure yet that the ability to reserve boxes is being taken away. People on the test server are trying to find out, but they don't have any answers yet.

And I agree with you, I'm not interested in having the top horse on the game. As long as it can have 1100+ dressage to help maintain my lessons, or I can enter it in the prix to get horseshoes, I'm happy.
By Retired breeder, 27th August 2014 14:43:11
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We don't know that howrse is actually is going to take away the ability to reserve at this point. We could have misunderstood the statement "Ownership of boxes is removed"
Honestly, I am thinking it has something to do with selling boxes and that it was poorly translated from French. Or it could mean we now reserve EC spots rather than specific boxes. I would wait and see --wait until the prepod players get answers and test this feature before getting upset, because it could be something really cool that has nothing to do with reservations.
@forestsunrise I totally love your positive attitude. Can I hug you?

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How ever if that is not what they mean, then why aren't we getting a reply on prepod?

I'm really struggling trying to keep a positive attitude. But I cannot
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Retired breeder wrote:

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We don't know that howrse is actually is going to take away the ability to reserve at this point. We could have misunderstood the statement "Ownership of boxes is removed"
Honestly, I am thinking it has something to do with selling boxes and that it was poorly translated from French. Or it could mean we now reserve EC spots rather than specific boxes. I would wait and see --wait until the prepod players get answers and test this feature before getting upset, because it could be something really cool that has nothing to do with reservations.

Reserving a box is pretty much like owning that box in the EC, so us private EC owners may have the right to be a little worried. Before my EC was made private I used to have it as a 50% prestiege/about 55e lesson public EC.... until junk horses or 29 year old skillers were borded there one after another and threw all my work out the window and into a toilet. I don't want to go through that again. My EC isn't as prestiegous as it used to be, but at least I don't board any horses there that would wreck it (except my donkey. She's fine)
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I agree forestsunrise. default smiley (y)

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I honestly doubt they would remove the option to reserve boxes. I suspect they do know the impact it would create on players who are trying to hold 60e, or just like having shower boxes reserved to themselves. I finally got my EC back to 60e (though it dropped for an unknown reason last nightdefault smiley (o)) and if that indeed was the change, I would probably abandon my EC altogether.

The only response we have received on preprod was an admin asking where we heard about "ownership being removed" default smiley (lol)

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By Retired breeder, 27th August 2014 15:16:10
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Asfridur wrote:

@forestsunrise I totally love your positive attitude. Can I hug you?

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How ever if that is not what they mean, then why aren't we getting a reply on prepod?

I'm really struggling trying to keep a positive attitude. But I cannot


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I agree forestsunrise. default smiley (y)

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I honestly doubt they would remove the option to reserve boxes. I suspect they do know the impact it would create on players who are trying to hold 60e, or just like having shower boxes reserved to themselves. I finally got my EC back to 60e (though it dropped for an unknown reason last nightdefault smiley (o)) and if that indeed was the change, I would probably abandon my EC altogether.

The only response we have received on preprod was an admin asking where we heard about "ownership being removed" default smiley (lol)


Thanks guys!
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I don't know prepod and how fast you usually get answers and how much the staff pay attention to the forums there, But with Fanta's remark that an Admin asked where you had heard that, I am now thinking that was an error--maybe a translation issue, or maybe a proposed idea that somehow, despite not being approved, made it's way onto a list of features to be tested.
By Retired breeder, 27th August 2014 15:52:42
Does someone know what Pixiu can do?
By Retired breeder, 27th August 2014 16:00:28
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Retired breeder wrote:

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We don't know that howrse is actually is going to take away the ability to reserve at this point. We could have misunderstood the statement "Ownership of boxes is removed"
Honestly, I am thinking it has something to do with selling boxes and that it was poorly translated from French. Or it could mean we now reserve EC spots rather than specific boxes. I would wait and see --wait until the prepod players get answers and test this feature before getting upset, because it could be something really cool that has nothing to do with reservations.


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If it's reserving spots, rather than boxes, I like that idea. default smiley :)


Asfridur wrote:

@forestsunrise I totally love your positive attitude. Can I hug you?
Me too?default smiley (a)
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Does someone know what Pixiu can do?

Please use spoilers when talking about him!
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But no, the only rumors around about him are that he's either going to be in the next promo/GC or that he's the son of Tianma and a new female divine. There is no official confirmation about him yet. default smiley :)
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Oh these EC changes are all worrying me default smiley :s
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If Ow was straight forward and honest with all the upcoming changes instead of hidden messages and vague descriptions on everything we wouldnt be so worried. just tell us all how it is going to be be instead of unanswered questions and wondering and worrying us all. Some of us like to plan ahead
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Indeed we do horsegirl

I have an update from prepod

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Since the feature is not being tested on preprod yet. It is still unknown if "Ownership is removed" is related to box reservations or not.
Our concerns and comments on prepod will be forwarded to the Howrse team.

Thank you to the mod that posted.
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horsegirl28 wrote:

If Ow was straight forward and honest with all the upcoming changes instead of hidden messages and vague descriptions on everything we wouldnt be so worried. just tell us all how it is going to be be instead of unanswered questions and wondering and worrying us all. Some of us like to plan ahead


I'm pretty sure it's not a case of Ow, or anyone, being "dishonest" about the changes.
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The ownership of a box to be removed hasn't been tested in preprod yet. An admin responded to our questions and said
" a feature that is not yet on preprod and not yet tested. For this reason, I don't have the details about it yet to let you know if "Ownership is removed" is related to box reservations or not."
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Just in case no one has posted it. Here are the changes that will be coming AFTER this coming change in September. This is from Preprod.

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The next phase

To be released mid October

Equestrian center prestige changes
A comfort rating indicates box size, type of bedding, fodder, treats, and available equipment. This rating impacts center prestige.
The occupancy rate is taken into account in prestige calculation.
Boarders' prestige is revised in order to take the best skill of each boarder into account.
Lessons are no longer taken into account in general prestige. Lesson pricing directly depends on boarders' prestige.

Box changes
Ownership is removed.
Bedding quantity impacts morale loss and energy recovery when sending a horse to his box.
Box quality impacts morale and energy recovery when a horse wakes up.
The boxes and boarders pages are merged.
Boarding fees changes
Boarding fees range from 20 to 200 Equus.
Centers can offer equipment and food to boarders.
Center managers can pick a minimum boarding duration, from 3 to 30 days.

Meadow page changes
Meadow-related information are displayed in a clearer fashion.
You can now filter your meadows according to land surface, fertility, and use (fallow, pasture, or crops)
You can now purchase meadows from the meadows page.
Equestrian center office changes
It is back and now integrates the changes made to center management
Some elements (forum configuration, admin tab) have been moved.
The center registry is added to this page.

Removal of jobs
Bedding will be changed automatically so, grooms are no longer needed.
Instead of saddlers, equestrian centers can provide equipment to boarders, if they have some available.
The riding instructor no longer impacts the lesson fee, which now only depends from boarders' prestige.
A privilege that gives Equus is provided during the tutorial in order to help new players.
What's next...
Here is an overview of what we are planning next.
We will provide further details on each feature as the release date approaches.
The competition management page is updated: competition related info is easier to find and edit.
Inventories, breeder storage, and equestrian center storage are merged.
You pick a location for your equestrian center: the beach, the mountain, or the forest. This location defines the main resource you can obtain (sand, iron or wood).
Production cycles are added to allow harvests, crafting, and product selling.
Rides are easier to manage.
You can now add improvements to your structures in order to improve their quality or output.
Lessons are now missions. Missions allow the horse to receive experience. Howrse owners receive Equus from them, and equestrian centers receive resources.
A tutorial is available when setting up equestrian centers.
Workhorses are added to the game.
And maybe other features to be added in the meantime.
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Just so everyone knows while a part of what Admin said is posted here, this is the full reply.


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Thank you for the link.

It appears that this topic is about a feature that is not yet on preprod and not yet tested. For this reason, I don't have the details about it yet to let you know if "Ownership is removed" is related to box reservations or not.

What I would like to do is keep this topic running for feedback on upcoming Box changes and at the end of this Preprod session I will submit your comments to our team.

If I'm able to answer any of your questions before then, I'll add information here.

Cheers,


So they are allowing us to make suggestions on prepod and continue and all the feedback will be reviewed.
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