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By Retired breeder, 13th November 2016 22:35:16
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Asper wrote:

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"Point towards a free pass: use a Black Market item from the Customisation category"


Regarding pass point requirements;
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Does this mean we need to use a -new- Customization item? Or could we, say, re-use Lyres / Unlimited HRs already on the horse?
By Retired breeder, 13th November 2016 22:47:07
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Pega wrote:

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FOALS AND UNIS AND BREEDING

play with a foal

birth of a foal

cover a unicorn under the right conditions

cover a draft mare

cover a female donkey

covering offer accepted by another player



SPENDING PASSES


buy passes

subscription or extension of a subscription



USING BM ITEMS


use a Black Market item

use a Black Market item from the Breeding category

use a Black Market item from the Performance category

use a Black Market item from the Luck category

use a Black Market item from the Customization category

use a Black Market item from the Bonus category



FEEDING


give a horse a carrot

give a horse a mash

give a horse an apple



TRAINING


board a horse at an equestrian centre

choose a horse's specialty

equip a horse with 5 types of tack

give a horse one of the bonuses from the store

train a horse

take a horse for a ride

stroke a horse

take a horse on a mission

enter a competition

reach 100 BLUP with a horse

win a competition

train a horse in jumping

train a horse in trot

train a horse in gallop

train a horse in dressaget

train a horse in speed

train a horse in stamina

take a horse for a beach ride

take a horse for a mountain ride

take a horse for a forest ride



THE EC


welcome a new boarder into your equestrian center

hire an employee

change meadow usage

repair a building



THE PLAYER


catch a UFO

use an ageing point

change the appearance of the player's presentation page

congratulate a player

post a message on a public forum

send a private message

be congratulated by another player

enter the Grand Prix

credit some ageing points

credit some Equus

create a breeding farm

stroke a horse in the Safe Haven

win a trophy



RANKINGS


finish in the top 100 for a Grand Prix

win a rosette

enter into the top 100 for a ranking


BUYING AND SELLING


buy a product from the store

sell a horse to the Peace Haven

sell a horse in auctions

purchase a horse in auctions

purchase a horse in direct sales


Repeating the same actions every day is also reduced earnings points => make all actions every day = not to have a maximum gain points
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Does anyone remember when the Packs came out last year? I think it was around Christmas, but I'm not sure how close.
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By Retired breeder, 14th November 2016 00:42:31
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loyal player pass changes = goodbye loyal player real money! I will truly enjoy playing the game with all the FREE stuff UbiKill provides and nothing more
Pega wrote:

Regarding the P-horse change I found the following actions on UK server translation centre counting towards the 10 points.
I don't think we can talk about "normal" game play here, there's pretty much advanced or hyper active game play needed and huge amount of luck to gather those elusive points a day. Everybody can guess for themselves how many passes they would earn with this massive scale of random actions to perform.
Call it a loyal player put off new system.

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FOALS AND UNIS AND BREEDING

play with a foal

birth of a foal

cover a unicorn under the right conditions

cover a draft mare

cover a female donkey

covering offer accepted by another player



SPENDING PASSES


buy passes

subscription or extension of a subscription



USING BM ITEMS


use a Black Market item

use a Black Market item from the Breeding category

use a Black Market item from the Performance category

use a Black Market item from the Luck category

use a Black Market item from the Customization category

use a Black Market item from the Bonus category



FEEDING


give a horse a carrot

give a horse a mash

give a horse an apple



TRAINING


board a horse at an equestrian centre

choose a horse's specialty

equip a horse with 5 types of tack

give a horse one of the bonuses from the store

train a horse

take a horse for a ride

stroke a horse

take a horse on a mission

enter a competition

reach 100 BLUP with a horse

win a competition

train a horse in jumping

train a horse in trot

train a horse in gallop

train a horse in dressaget

train a horse in speed

train a horse in stamina

take a horse for a beach ride

take a horse for a mountain ride

take a horse for a forest ride



THE EC


welcome a new boarder into your equestrian center

hire an employee

change meadow usage

repair a building



THE PLAYER


catch a UFO

use an ageing point

change the appearance of the player's presentation page

congratulate a player

post a message on a public forum

send a private message

be congratulated by another player

enter the Grand Prix

credit some ageing points

credit some Equus

create a breeding farm

stroke a horse in the Safe Haven

win a trophy



RANKINGS


finish in the top 100 for a Grand Prix

win a rosette

enter into the top 100 for a ranking


BUYING AND SELLING


buy a product from the store

sell a horse to the Peace Haven

sell a horse in auctions

purchase a horse in auctions

purchase a horse in direct sales


Oh brilliantdefault smiley (d)
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So they are taking away pass horses - a system that is reliable and far more flexible than points - and replacing it with a system that will make trying to guarantee 10 points per day barely worth it for 99% of players.

Buying passes/a subscription completely detracts from this being a way 'loyal' players can be rewarded; it is not a reward if I had to buy it! Same with buying BM items; not even Howrse's constant promos give us enough BM items to use one every day without spending passes (or a lot of equus in exchanges, which we have a limited number of anyway) and spending passes to get a free pass every 3 days is pointless. Even if we did, there is no guarantee they would be from the right category. Hiring employes, again, costs passes and, again, makes the whole thing an exercise in futility. And crediting equus/AP.

Some of the 'player' ones seem fairly irrelevant to being a 'loyal player'. What does editing our presentation have to do with being loyal players? And having pm's and forums posts as potential point earning requirements is just asking for trouble. With thousands of players playing daily, there simply aren't enough real reasons for everyone to be posting in the forums every day. 90% of the posts will end up being pointless spam, only posted because players don't want to miss out on such an easy way of possibly earning a point, same with a lot of pm's. Forum posts and pm's also have little to do with gameplay - it is perfectly possible to have a successful game with little to no contact with other players.

The top 100 in the Prix one is blatantly unfair to 99.9% of players. Not only do you have some people unable to access the GP at all, getting into the top 100 is difficult even for well established players, and it is *expensive*. On top of that, there are only 100 places, so if more than 100 people per day have that as one the things they need to do to earn 10 points, then it immediately becomes impossible for all of them to get 10 points, no matter how hard they try. Hardly rewarding the loyal players. The same for the rankings - there simply aren't enough places to go around, and in many rankings rising into the top 1,000 is difficult, never mind breaking into the top 100.

I don't mind having some challenging requirements (after all, pass horses are expensive and/or time consuming to many players) but none of the requirements should require the use of passes or real money, and they should be relevant to gameplay and theoretically achievable for all players even if 2,000 people have the same requirement in one day.

If these are the potential daily actions we need to complete, I think less people will be getting their 10 passes a month (or 121 passes a year) than initially expecteddefault smiley :-x
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bezo - Excellent post. Particularly your last half.

I fail to understand why this game does not offer a subscription option. NOT mandatory - voluntary. The seem to have no interest in anything other than getting money from the players. Fine, then let me give you money and quit with this nonsense.

My opinion of this place is as low as it's ever been and seems to be dropping even more by the hour. Stop ripping off the players who have no choice but to try to enjoy this game for free and let those of us who spend money the chance to give it to you without the constant money-grab we see here every single day.
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By Retired breeder, 14th November 2016 02:12:30
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Sorry but new pass system should be called "who can spend the most"
Cybertron wrote:

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Does anyone remember when the Packs came out last year? I think it was around Christmas, but I'm not sure how close.


Yes, generally the Pass Pack offers come out around Christmas, and then again around New Year's
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By Retired breeder, 14th November 2016 04:24:47
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I cant remember that tree divines name, and i'm unsure if it needs a spoiler so ill do it to be safe. is there a master post on him? Id like to start stocking up pass horses since i think thats what someone said we need to get him. Can someone possibly please confirm?
schmexy33,
you may find it in the second spoiler section of this [post]
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yesterday I had 14 pass horses pass away, I got 13 passes.
Not liking system to come at all, instead of redoing the game every time we blink maybe just put a 10 pass limit on pass horses and anything over a random bmi.

Than maybe you could just spend your time maintaing the game to work properly.
It has been broke for over a week.
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By Retired breeder, 14th November 2016 13:25:04
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I cant remember that tree divines name, and i'm unsure if it needs a spoiler so ill do it to be safe. is there a master post on him? Id like to start stocking up pass horses since i think thats what someone said we need to get him. Can someone possibly please confirm?


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By Retired breeder, 14th November 2016 14:52:49
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Not sure if this goes here but I was wondering if anyone could estimate the time of the next HOP opening frenzy- where players open as many HOP's as possible in order to possibly win a divine. I noticed in the past that there was a trend, but since that was a long time ago, I haven't been on here long enough to observe it. Normally the trend would be something like: heavy BMI event via cards or something where you had to collect them, some type of lottery thing, an HOP frenzy, a horse GP race frenzy etc. Again, sorry if this doesn't go here.

RR
Retired breeder wrote:

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Not sure if this goes here but I was wondering if anyone could estimate the time of the next HOP opening frenzy- where players open as many HOP's as possible in order to possibly win a divine. I noticed in the past that there was a trend, but since that was a long time ago, I haven't been on here long enough to observe it. Normally the trend would be something like: heavy BMI event via cards or something where you had to collect them, some type of lottery thing, an HOP frenzy, a horse GP race frenzy etc. Again, sorry if this doesn't go here. RR
We never know when luck items will have divines in them. It's always a surprise. We haven't had a HoP offer in a few weeks though.
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What a wonderful plan....NOT! default smiley (d)
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Does anyone know if an HOP promo of any kind is coming up? I'm saving up HOPs and I'm just wondering if there's anything worth saving them for coming up soon
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Whoops just noticed the above post default smiley :s
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By Retired breeder, 14th November 2016 18:48:56
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What does the S_F_ entail?
By Retired breeder, 14th November 2016 18:50:21
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Retired breeder wrote:

What does the S_F_ entail?
not sure if this is right but
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you catch UFOs that are shaped like snowballs you are given a pair to give to one of your friends whoever gives the most snowballs wins divines or black Market items
All I can say is... I rest my case

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littlehorse13 wrote:

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Does anyone know if an HOP promo of any kind is coming up? I'm saving up HOPs and I'm just wondering if there's anything worth saving them for coming up soon


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Jade was in the Golden Fleece, and the wild horse was in the HOP. Maybe we have the chance to get a gemstonehorse in HOPs. default smiley :) But I don't know
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I am glad for this thread and utterly disgusted. Thank you to everyone with informative posts.
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By Retired breeder, 14th November 2016 20:34:37
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This changes the way I play this game because

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I would have liked to treat myself with the most expensive pass pack and supplement the passes I get from that with pass horses. I had a guaranteed 11 passes per month and a max of 31, so it was worth it to try and get Divines using passes earned as well as bought.

Now I will get a maybe 10 passes, but most likely not as:
I don't breed drafts or donkeys and don't offer covers.
I don't do beach rides, I don't accept boarders in my EC and I don't hire employees
I don't credit ageing points or Equus.
I don't enter the Grand Prix because there is no way I will finish in the top 100.
To win a rosette or enter into the top 100 for a ranking is impossible because all of those are dominated but the top 3 teams.
I don't sell horses to the Safe Haven or in auctions, I used to keep these around as pass horses.
I don't buy auction horses because my data line is slow and I never win an auction.

The other available actions I do but a lot of them not very often. So basically, I can wave earned passes goodbye, which means I will stop buying passes too, because I won't be able to get enough passes to justify spending a little money here and there. So basically, passes are going to be out of my reach soon.

This also means that aging points become useless and all my potential pass horses now are of zero value.
By Retired breeder, 14th November 2016 20:41:49
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In addition to that

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they are now starting to dictate how I will play the game. There are certain things I do not want to do at all and certain things I don't want to do daily. When I put BMIs on horses I usually do it in bulk once a month, not once a day, and I certainly don't buy BMIs with passes or put them on average horses. I only ever spend passes to get Divines and then only the ones I really want.

So either I play their way, which sucks, or I play my way and wave passes and Divines goodbye.
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