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By Ow, 13th February 2014 09:39:57
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Hello,

On this topic, you may discuss what isn’t in the game yet.

You can share spoilers concerning new features that will come to the game in the future.

For example, players participating in the test server can use this topic to share their findings.

Please remember to use the spoiler feature when sharing new information with everyone.

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Warning: We do not guarantee that any of the info that is posted in here is true or accurate. Nor that the features will be launched on the game.

Please remain polite with one another; no one has the right to spoil or claim ownership of the rumors and spoilers related to the game.

Thank you for your collaboration and understanding.

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By MerlynAuraid, 14th November 2014 17:39:18
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Spyder, maybe my point wasn't very clear... I'll try an actual example:

(in a spoiler tag 'cos I just saw Zig's post)

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You choose that your coat will only have 100 uses, and so you are paid the reduced price for that coat. You accept that price, trusting it really will have only 100 uses.

But now Howrse will let it be used 20 more times, that's 20% more than you both agreed, and what you were paid for.

Is that fair? The agreement is being broken, long after we agreed it.
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By MerlynAuraid, 14th November 2014 17:42:51
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Oh, and

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You are correct though, that they have the rights to the artwork now. It's not a legal issue, just an ethical one.

(And that loss-of-rights-to-own-work is why I will never draw any coats again default smiley (lol) Artists should think carefully before submitting...)

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By Retired breeder, 14th November 2014 17:44:00
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By Dr Zig, 14th November 2014 17:45:23
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lovetopaint wrote:

I am not chatting...I am suggesting another solution.


That is chatting, as is all the complaining that has been going on in this topic, and all of the off-topic stuff, and the commentaries about supposed motivations of Owlient default smiley ;)

The place to offer alternative suggestions is the testing zone, whenever that opens.

Ow posted a warning here this afternoon, and I suspect it would be a good idea for everyone to heed that warning default smiley ;)
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By Dr Zig, 14th November 2014 17:47:00
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Spoilers only, and not essays, opinion pieces, rants, complaints, and other stuff default smiley ;) No repeat of last night's carry on, which led to Ow posting a warning here for everyone.
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By BigTimingFarm, 14th November 2014 17:47:55
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As a RC collector, I'm very horrified to learn that retired coats will be allowing a few more uses. There are many coats that are in my collection that I've spent years looking for and that have been retired for a very, very long time. So now, a player can just put in a big chunk of change and grab a coat? While there are some old coats I'd love to have, I can't justify this being a good thing. Many RC's are even rarer than they show as many copies are still living on "dead accounts" and very few are "in circulation". I also have to agree with those who bring up the point that it isn't fair to the artists either. If it's a Creation Space coat, then they submitter picked a use limit and that shouldn't be changed. The Pre-CS coats were either retired by the player or retired when that player left and they shouldn't even be touched. This makes me sick that Howrse is even thinking of doing this. Luckily, I haven't spent any money on this game, but my heart hurts for those that have, especially the RC collectors, some of which I feel are good friends. Absolutely out of line to even think about introducing this.
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By Dr Zig, 14th November 2014 17:48:17
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Here is Ow's posted warning, in case others missed it default smiley ;)


Ow wrote:

I generally don't put my nose in here because it's a speculation topic, but I'm afraid that seeing the behaviour and lack of restraint i am going to give you a single warning.

<b>If you are not able to show some self control and remain polite this topic will be closed. </b>

Please be mindful of other players, express yourself with respect (yes that also includes towards Owlient) and refrain from using curses because they don't add value to your arguments, however pertinent those arguments may be.

Thank you
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By MerlynAuraid, 14th November 2014 17:49:43
Hehe, sorry Zig, if I was getting off-topic too. I just had to comment on that topic, being one of those artists affected. I'll be quiet now though.

Does anyone know what Cloud's skills will be like? That's the only reason I might want him - if he's amazing like Ocean or Geyser then I will totally try to get him!
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By Velvette, 14th November 2014 17:53:05
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Dr Zig wrote:


The place to offer alternative suggestions is the testing zone, whenever that opens.

What about people like me ? Im a Non VIP and i doubt i will ever get a invited.Where should people like me express out opinions ? We have no where for howrse to listen to us and i feel like everyones opinion should be valued on this game just as much as anyone else. Just because we are not invited and not a VIP does not mean our opinion should just be blocked out , not expressed and over all told we aren't aloud to post it.
Sorry but i often feel like some players are just left out .
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By Retired breeder, 14th November 2014 17:55:23
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Velvette wrote:

What about people like me ? Im a Non VIP and i doubt i will ever get a invited.Where should people like me express out opinions ? We have no where for howrse to listen to us and i feel like everyones opinion should be valued on this game just as much as anyone else. Just because we are not invited and not a VIP does not mean our opinion should just be blocked out , not expressed and over all told we aren't aloud to post it.
Sorry but i often feel like some players are just left out .


Have to agree. So long as the discussion is kept respectful, without insults and without hate, if it's a discussion over a certain spoiler how does it not belong?
Ow wrote:

On this topic, you may talk about what isn’t on the game yet.
By Dr Zig, 14th November 2014 18:00:14
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Why not put together a single, calm, coherent message and send it to Contact? There is no harm either in posting a similar type of comment here, using spoiler tags. *One* clear, concise, polite, reasoned post is far more likely to get across the writer's point than a series of repeated complaints default smiley ;)

What has been going on here is the same people posting over and over and over, saying the same things again and again, going off topic, speculating as to business plans and motivations of Owlient, and other things that are not spoilers of features that might be coming. And big long essays, on various topics, that nobody is going to bother reading. Short, clear, and concise are key.

What went on here last night bordered on ridiculous.
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By Dr Zig, 14th November 2014 18:03:21
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Retired breeder wrote:

if it's a discussion over a certain spoiler how does it not belong?


What has been going on in here has largely had nothing to do with new features that might be coming, and a lot to do with speculations over business policies and motivations, complaints, the usual quitting threats, and stuff last night that is not permitted for discussion anywhere on the site.

EC forums are more suitable for essays, opinion pieces, rants and complaints that just go around and around over the same one or two points, etc default smiley ;)
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By Shishi no Seirei, 14th November 2014 18:04:17
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Dr Zig: we passed the wonderful number page 666,maybe thats what created whatever was going on last night ;P


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Also when it comes to Cloud do anyone have him on this server? My Rain is pregnant but it will take time before I can see Clouds skillset....
(Im thinking of Final Fantasy Crisis Core everytime I See someone say "Cloud"default smiley (lol))
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By Spyder, 14th November 2014 18:09:18
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Velvette wrote:

What about people like me ? Im a Non VIP and i doubt i will ever get a invited.Where should people like me express out opinions ? We have no where for howrse to listen to us and i feel like everyones opinion should be valued on this game just as much as anyone else. Just because we are not invited and not a VIP does not mean our opinion should just be blocked out , not expressed and over all told we aren't aloud to post it.
Sorry but i often feel like some players are just left out .


Most of the "oldies" know I tend to sympathize with those that don't or are unable to have the privilege that VIPs ( yes I am VIP) have. I don't always post much here but I do read and if I think a concern has been raised that is a valid point I tend to raise it when I get invited. I know if asked politely I will often get a reply from one of the ADMINs there or I am at least able to bring it to there attention.

I can tell you that many of your concerns are also felt by VIPs and are discussed on the test server. Some become hot debates between players and or the invited players with the ADMINs that are on the test server.

I personally think all our posts are read and even if you don't think anything has happened it could be something that was already on the back burner but not able to be implemented at the time because of other issues.
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By Retired breeder, 14th November 2014 18:12:11
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New savages :
(french version)
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By Retired breeder, 14th November 2014 18:14:16
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Dr Zig wrote:

and a lot to do with speculations over business policies and motivations, complaints,


Well, I agree it simply has to stop because it's an issue that an be forever debated. But for that reason only. The reason behind why Owlient may implement something is just as fair game as anything else. If we were to say they do it because they love us so much, don't think anyone would have complained.
By ɴᴇᴄʀoᴍᴀɴᴄᴇʀ, 14th November 2014 18:16:57
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Shishi no Seirei wrote:

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Also when it comes to Cloud do anyone have him on this server? My Rain is pregnant but it will take time before I can see Clouds skillset....
(Im thinking of Final Fantasy Crisis Core everytime I See someone say "Cloud"default smiley (lol))


No Clouds have been born here yet, It will still be a few days. But, There are some on the Danish server and perhaps a few other servers, that you can locate. default smiley :)
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By Dr Zig, 14th November 2014 18:17:11
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Retired breeder wrote:

Well, I agree it simply has to stop because it's an issue that an be forever debated. But for that reason only. The reason behind why Owlient may implement something is just as fair game as anything else.


Um, no, it is not. Those things are nothing whatsoever to do with the identity and working of new features that might be coming to the game. And *that* is the purpose of this forum topic default smiley ;)
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By ꜱᴛʀᴀʏ ᴋɪᴅꜱ, 14th November 2014 18:23:08
I suppose this is sort of a spoiler-related question. If it's not, please forgive me.
Does anyone have a list of what prizes are available at what level of collected horseshoes for this contest?

For example, if my question was not clear, I know that at 240 horseshoes you get M.Arms and that at 170 you get a Horn of Plenty, but could anyone tell me what comes after those?

Many thanks!
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By Dr Zig, 14th November 2014 18:23:57
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ꜱᴛʀᴀʏ ᴋɪᴅꜱ wrote:

Does anyone have a list of what prizes are available at what level of collected horseshoes for this contest?


Someone posting in the Great Challenge topic would have that information default smiley :)
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By Asfridur, 14th November 2014 18:39:04
@ratinou thanks for posting

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What are those? New wilds? They carry the icon used on the wilds? (the brown icon)
Ahh you say savages...so I guess they are default smiley :)
(I can be a tad blonde every now and then default smiley (lol))

Are they part of some promo?

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By lovetopaint, 14th November 2014 18:48:03
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The issue with Contact Us is that they hardly ever really listen, Dr Zig. I have indeed tried many times.
And yes--what about us lowly non VIPs? We weren't invited to test! We can't express our opinions.
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By lovetopaint, 14th November 2014 18:51:12
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It would be really nice if they could have a poll? Something like, "hey who wants this new bmi? Yes or no?"
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By ɴᴇᴄʀoᴍᴀɴᴄᴇʀ, 14th November 2014 18:52:27
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lovetopaint wrote:

And yes--what about us lowly non VIPs? We weren't invited to test! We can't express our opinions.


I do not believe complaining about being a VIP or not, belongs in this topic. It would be great in an EC topic or something. default smiley (y)
That said, VIP players get invited to give their opinion because they have played in the game competitively enough to get VIP. I know several players, Including myself, who have never bought passes.
It would be silly for howrse to pick a new player to the game, and ask them their opinion on something that would affect things far beyond what that newer player understands at the moment. Honestly, The opinions they would get back would consist of "No, You need to allow horses to be sold out of SH first!"
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