I have spent thousands of passes on skillers for the prix but I probably wouldn't run it if I couldn't get the rosettes along the way whilst skilling..!!
I have no interest in joining a team ( I'm too old for discord & chit chat )
This is entirely the worst thing that Howrse has ever done.
I'm beyond annoyed & frustrated.

ps.. sorry I have no clue either how to cover this up or not even sure if it's needed.

Very upset player

the only way i could see the market not crashing is if the winner of the Rosettes got one pass instead of equus. it wouldnt fix all the issues but this change just sounds down right stupid, i have trained a lot of skillers on my old account before it got x'ed and none of them i breed since i wasnt on a team. im on a team now but it will become pointless for me to help my team get to first if there is no rewards for it.

win rosettes with horses you've bought, but they won't count for this particular trophy. And there is still the regular "Rosettes" trophy that require you to win rosettes with any horses.

I don't agree with this update either, and have left multiple comments about it on preprod. I just want to clarify that this change isn't referring to *all* rosette wins

so is it just for a single trophy? will it not effect the most rosettes won this month ranking? because if it doesnt effect that then i dont care all that much it wont crash the market.

They axed the "Rosette on a horse" trophy and changed it with a horse you've bred.

oh then i dont think there will be much problems i think a lot of people like me dont pay attention to trophys anyway, we just want to have the winning horse in the end. the rankings was my concern i got all scared for nothing. on another note anyone know when the card event starts

Oh! Is that what they did? Well that's actually way better than what we have now! As long as the rosettes don't benefit solely the original breeder than at least the trophy is obtainable now.

the breeder. If you own the horse, but bought it, the points for that particular trophy only go to the breeder, even if the breeder did not train or enter into those rosette comps.
This only affects this particular trophy.

"In order to standardize the way the trophies work, we've decided to change the operation and name of the "Rosette by horse" trophy. Here are the changes we've made:

Changed the trophy name -> "Champion breeder"
Changed the trophy description -> "Breed a horse who won X rosettes"
Changed the trophy category: Competitions -> Breeding farm
So you will need to be the breeder of a horse who won the rosettes to progress in this trophy. Rosettes earned by horses on another player's farm but for which you are the breeder count towards your trophy. On the other hand, the rosettes earned by horses from your farm but not born there will count for the trophy of the player who bred them. The change is also retroactive: horses that you bred and then sold will earn you points in this trophy.

Please note that the trophy gauges will be changed accordingly. If you gain thresholds with this change, you will receive points/gifts as normal. If you end up with a lower trophy level than you had before, we will not reduce your gift gauge."

This is what it looks like now. The 2nd trophy outlined in blue is the changed one

That is what I think, it will actually probably be better for more players since it can be obtained with a Divine horse bred by that player, and can be worked on over time. Many players are not going to be able to spend all the time and resources to get it done in a few days with a top skiller before that skiller is no longer the best and can't win rosettes anymore, not to mention, I'm not sure there are that many rosettes available in one type of comp.


I don't think it's 'unfair' if a breeder of a top skiller gets the reward for the hard work that went into getting that breed to that GP. Not to mention all the work (and items) they put into breeding top skillers. Top teams have to breed a lot just to produce a few top skillers, why should they not get a bit more reward for that hard work.

You bought the horse someone else worked hard to breed, yes?

I'm not sure why there is this level of outrage? If you bought the horse, you get this trophy. If you spent the time breeding the horse yourself, you get this trophy. Yes I understand people spent a lot of passes BLUPPing and training, but people spend just as many breeding.

You said "If you bought the horse you get this trophy", but you don't. You don't get ANY TROPHY to get the horse to 4000 rosettes. The breeder and ONLY the breeder does.

And of course, players should be rewarded for improving the Genetic Potential of breeds and giving their best, but how come the dedication of the Trainer DOESN'T get any recognition at all?
Skilling is not cheap. Items are as expensive as breeding multiple foals.

I think they were referring to how it is now, vs the change.

And yes I know how expensive skilling is. I do it quite a lot myself just to go for the Grand Prix Distinctions. I guess I'm just saying that this is not the worst thing, and will still be very doable for most players. I don't know why the change has to be made (what's the difference players can do it either way now a horse they bred or a horse they buy), but to me it's really not that bad of a thing.

I’m not really understanding why (some) players are worked up about it. It’s hard enough for most of us to win rosettes anyways. I’m still working on 100 rosettes for ONE horse. Only top of the top teams or breeders of special horses are going to be able to obtain the 1000/horse rosette trophy anyways. There’s plenty of trophies many of us will never obtain- like rare coats, as some are so limited it is impossible. No reason to harp so intense on ONE trophy. There’s plenty of them that are annoying to the majority of players. If you want the 1000 rosette trophy from a horse you bred, join one of the top overall teams. No reason to come after players (in response to comments like “it’s disgusting) who spend their time, passes, and for some- real money to achieve the things they have within teams. I find it- disrespectful. Top teams put me in 2nd-3rd place more than not- yet I’m not here disrespecting the hard work they’ve put into getting where they are, and nobody should be doing that. You have the same opportunities as anyone else in this game to win that trophy, you have to put in effort. Kudos to them for being better. Lastly, it is equally hard breeding skillers as it is training them.

"You said "If you bought the horse you get this trophy", but you don't. You don't get ANY TROPHY to get the horse to 4000 rosettes. The breeder and ONLY the breeder does.

And of course, players should be rewarded for improving the Genetic Potential of breeds and giving their best, but how come the dedication of the Trainer DOESN'T get any recognition at all?"

Wait, maybe I'm reading it wrong? It still goes to the 'win X amount of rosettes'.

Legacy Ann wrote
"It only benefits
the breeder. If you own the horse, but bought it, the points for that particular trophy only go to the breeder, even if the breeder did not train or enter into those rosette comps.
This only affects this particular trophy."

The way I'm reading it is that any rosette you win with a horse you didn't breed still goes to your 'win X rosettes' trophy, as well as the breeders 'a horse you bred won X rosettes.'
That doesn't seem unfair...

and who are now getting their trophy snatched out of their grasp just like that.

Why not simply ADD this second Trophy?
Why not simply keep the old one and add another? They're adding new ones for contests every 3 weeks...

Why not simply lower the Requirements period?

But it is kinda unfair! People spend their money on these horses (which allows the teams to keep breeding these horses) to skill them and get the trophy, because not many players can breed their own if not on a team. Not to mention it can potentially drop sales a bit, for those who wanted the trophy and have no interest in the Prix.

It is unfair that alllll of the items and money people have used on these teams horses have practically gone to waste. I literally just last week got the '1,000' rosettes on a horse trophy, on a horse that I bought, not bred, so that is very disappointing for me.

I have Gullfaxi, but it will take me forever to get any of the rosette trophies with him, because I only used him when I got a rosette objective. Using a divine for it is not a viable way (Also, me stupid and specialized mine in Western soo.. not as many rosettes. Whoops!)

The teams have every right to benefit off hard work, but they already do benefit from it in sales! Skillers aren't cheap, and they make good money already off of selling them. This is almost like having someone else do your work.. but you get paid instead? And, teams sell these skillers knowing they aren't going to get any of the work back in return, that is solely on the person who bought them now. I haven't heard of one player complaining about the fact someone else bought the horse they literally put in sales to gain some trophies.

Its probably a change thats fine with 90% of the team players, because hey, they get the trophy AND money from selling a horse that someone else uses all their hard work on? Bonus! But at the same time, there are plenty of solo breeders who are going to suffer from this. They brought in these new trophies, and now that people have put in the hard work to get the trophy... they're changing it to heavily favour a group of players. Who, don't get me wrong, definitely keep the game running the most, but why not just make it a separate trophy?

You are right that you get recognition for "Win X Rosettes", but the other trophy, "Rosettes on a horse", is going away and being substituted from the Breeder one, and that's what rings Unfair to me.
All of sudden, players who had a Diamond trophy are left without one.


If they had simply ADDED another category I would have been all for it

I'd be completely fine if it was a separate trophy, and the breeder got credited for the rosettes I win with their horse. I just wish we as the people who buy the horses could also obtain the trophies alongside it