Admin posted in this topic that it would come to this server, but they don't have a date set yet for when this will happen, though we will get advance notice of it. Here's a link to that post

new pass system to me please? I don't quite understand how it works, with the tree rings and the divine and everything?

Instead of the possible 30 passes from pass horses a month + the 1 from loyal player pass, you can only get up to 10 passes a month with a new loyal player pass system. You get max 10 points per day and when you get 30 points you get a pass.

When you send 10 horses 25 yrs+ to heaven you get a divine called Yggdrasil that you can't care for or do anything with. All that happens is when you keep sending older horses to heaven you get tree rings so he gets older, and grows, and you get a little photo album where you can scroll through his growing process

There will also be a "horses sent to Safe Haven this month" ranking as well as "all age horses sent to heaven" and "older horses (25yrs+) sent to heaven" rankings

at least with tge new pass changes you still have a possibility of getting 10 passes. People will say no you can't because the stuff you have to do is really hard, and I get that, but it isn't impossible. So keep that in mind, but i still totally get that this is upsetting to people who spend hours just sitting there aging their old Horses, so don't start shaming me for telling you to be grateful for still having passes. You have every right to be upset, but you should still be glad passes won't be gone unless bought

How do you get 10 passes / month with a new pass system? Is it the same as the current loyal player pass system?

harder to get points than it is now. I get about 6 points on average on the CZ server, though on this server I get the 10 points easily.

It is possible they'll adjust the difficulty of gaining pounts though I'm not sure why it was made harder than what it is currently.But it is the same concept.
I'll still be aging horses (takes less than 20 minutes if I do it in one go without getting distracted) daily since my AP farms double as my pass farm. I just won't be getting something worthwhile (to me) at the end of it.

For me this is a change that raises the question, who benefits? I don't think I'm setting the bar overly high when I expect a change to be beneficial to someone. I may not agree with the pass horse change, for example, but at least I can see that it will benefit some players and therefore there is some logic behind the change, even though I don't like or agree with it.

Removing the companions trophy, however, benefits no one and will annoy a lot of people. Most people who have a complete/nearly complete collection have invested a lot of equus and passes into their collection. Some people did it because they enjoy collecting companions or HoG coats, but a lot of people did it because they are trophy collectors, and this rips away a big chunk of their collection. There are 10 companion trophies, and even if completing the collection is now nigh on impossible (for everyone, not just the new players), it is still possible to get at least a few of those trophies (or even most, for those willing to spend the time and money).

The people who supposedly benefit are new players. Except...they don't. So they will have less incomplete trophies - how is that benefiting them? I have dozens of incomplete trophies, some of which I could get if tried but many of which I am unable to ever complete. It doesn't affect my game and I rarely even think about it. I've just accepted there are some things I am never going have.
I have no complete sets of divines, and most of my missing divines I am unlikely to ever get because they have either never been offered in a promo since, or have been in luck items which require a lot of luck and/or a truckload of passes, making it an unviable way to complete a collection to anyone who has more than one divine missing from a set. Not only are my current sets incomplete, but I have more incomplete sets to look forward to in the future, thanks to the never ending influx of divines. Yet divine trophies aren't being removed and nobody bats an eye at the fact that they are unobtainable for many players. At least with companions there is the faint hope that someone who has a big collection who decides to quit the game could sell their collection first, freeing up a few more companions for other players - the chances are low, but at least it is possible - whereas with most divines even that is not an option because the majority are unsellable.
Of course, it is possible that Howrse could decide to stop adding new divines and re-offer old ones as prizes in our constant promos instead, giving people a (more feasible) chance to complete their collections, but I'm not holding my breath.

"It's for the new players" is a tired old argument that rarely engenders much sympathy or support anymore, but in this case it is simply nonsensical. Companions will still be on the game, they will still be as rare as they are now (possibly rarer as, if they hold no trophy value, people will be more willing to SH them or let them die when they get old), and new players still won't have them. The only difference will be slightly less missing trophies - which isn't even a benefit, because it also means if they do buy a horse with a companion, they will not earn a new trophy and won't get the (small but still there) boost to their ranking.

So new players don't benefit. Old players don't benefit. Even Howrse does not benefit - without the trophy, there will be less people willing to pay passes for companions. So what is the point of removing it when it will just annoy people, on the back of other changes that are already going to annoy a lot of people?

If the goal is to eliminate a trophy that is now INCREDIBLY difficult (but still possible!) to achieve, why not just bring the companions back? As long as I've been here the companions were no longer being created when I started, so I'm not familiar with how they worked, what they did, or what the problems with them were. If the concern is flooding the market, they could be made available in a very limited way, such as the prize in a promo, in a Christmas pack, etc. I think Howrse is making a poor business choice by getting rid of the companion trophies rather than bringing them back briefly.

But then, I'd love to see the diamond apples make a very limited reappearance, also.

We still haven't seen the snowball fight and don't know when that will occur. Perhaps later this week?

The next big event is the Bird Pinatas. Same concept as previous versions.
-This time you can skip objectives by giving Ow a black market item (must be an exchangeable item)
-points will be found in Horns of Plenty as in the past
New divine Liana of the Plant Horse Kingdom will be the large prize, with Gypsum at Pinata 17 as well.

Liana's perk
Liana is one of the Plant Kingdom horses

She can be watered instead of drinking.

This horse's skills increase when you give them Droppings. The skills increase depends on the amount of Droppings the horse is given, as well as the season in the game.

When she reaches 1200 skill points, she can be pruned. Her skills will then be reset to 0, but she'll give you 1 x Helio's Rays!

This mare cannot be sold.

There's something with doantions to Ow on some pinatas
They (french players) warn us to lower our reserve (with buying and reselling items into shop),,
"Lower the reserve for pinata's: 4 (50 000 eq) - 8 (100 000 eq) - 16 (500 000 eq) - 19 (1 000 000 eq)"
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1. Pinata:
- Objective 1. - Click on a pinata
- Obj. 2. - Groom a horse

2. Pinata:
- Obj. 1. - Take care of a horse
- Obj. 2. - Put a pony to the bed

3. Pinata:
- Obj. 1. - Congratulate a player
- Obj. 2. - Visit Ow

4. Pinata:
- Obj. 1. - Sell 3 mashes
- Obj. 2. - Donate Ow's 5,000 equus

5. Pinata:
- Obj. 1. - Participate in a competition
- Obj. 2. - Click on friend's pinata

6. Pinata:
- Obj. 1. - Specialize a horse (western x classical)
- Obj. 2. - Give an apple to Divine or Wild

7. Pinata:
- Obj. 1. - Train horse for 3 hours
- Obj. 2. - Participate in a competition with 12% energy (competition energy loss, not your horse's energy)

8. Pinata:
- Obj. 1. - Donate Ow's 10,000 equus
- Obj. 2. - Finish 3rd in 3 competitions

9. Pinata:
- Obj. 1. - Finish last in a competition
- Obj. 2. - Get 120 equus with a Plutos' Parchment

10. Pinata:
- Obj. 1. - Congratulate a player who has birthday
- Obj. 2. - Use an AP on a 15 years old horse

11. Pinata:
- Obj. 1. - Gain at least 1,000 equus ina competition with a horse
- Obj. 2. - Be congratulated XX times

12. Pinata:
- Obj. 1. - Win 1 equus in competition
- Obj. 2. - Make donation to new player

13. Pinata:
- Obj. 1. - Take care of a horse with Flaxen Liver Chestnut coat
- Obj. 2. - Give a horse to Ow

14. Pinata:
- Obj. 1. - Completely equip a horse
- Obj. 2. - Participate in a 60 competitions with 20% energy
- Obj. 3. - Remove pegasus wings

15. Pinata:
- Obj. 1. - Complete training in a horse's skill
- Obj. 2. - Accept item exchange
- Obj. 3. - Reach 100 BLUP with a horse

16. Pinata:
- Obj. 1. - Buy a horse for X000 equus
- Obj. 2. - Donate XXXX equus to Ow
- Obj. 3. - Open HoP

17. Pinata:
- Obj. 1. - Give a carrot to foundie (horse with parents Ouranos and Gaia)
- Obj. 2. - Win X competitions
- Obj. 3. - Take care of a horse over 40 years old (excluding divines, wilds, legendaries)

18. Pinata:
- Obj. 1. - Give a mash to a horse who has between XXX and YYY dressage skill points
- Obj. 2. - Achieve an equus reserve that ends with 11111
- Obj. 3. - Give a XXX color GA to a horse

19. Pinata:
- Obj. 1. - Win 2 competitions with a foundie
- Obj. 2. - Donate 10,000 equus to Ow
- Obj. 3. - Buy a horse for at least 1 pass (1 pass +)

20. Pinata:
- Obj. 1. - Remove unicorn's horn
- Obj. 2. - Give birth to twins
- Obj. 3. - Win 1 rosette
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Prizes
1. Pinata - 3x AP, Pandora's box
2. Pinata - 10% energy for all your horses, 3*** Classical Bridle
3. Pinata - Whip, 3*** Classical Saddle
4. Pinata - 10x Mash, Water of Youth
5. Pinata - 50x Apple, Philotes' Stroke
6. Pinata - 1* Classical Bridle, Helios' Ray
7. Pinata - 100x Wood, 100x Iron, 100x Sand
8. Pinata - Fertility wand, 10 AP, Artemis' Arrow
9. Pinata - 20x Leather, Water trough, Apollos' Lyre
10. Pinata - 2** Violet/Purple and White Western set
11. Pinata - 300x Fodder, Horseshoe Studs, Medusa's blood
12. Pinata - 4,000 equus, 500x points to your general ranking, Zeus' Lightning Bolt
13. Pinata - 20x Carrot, Shower, Poseidon's pack
14. Pinata - 250x 2** fertiliser, Piece of Cloud, Achilles' Heel
15. Pinata - 10x AP, Tractor, Horn of Plenty
16. Pinata - 100x Droppings, Hypnos' Blanket, Harmony Pack
17. Pinata - 50,000 equus, 300x Flax seeds, Gypsum
18. Pinata - 20x Mash, Nyx Pack, 1,000 points to your general ranking
19. Pinata - 5,000 equus, Ow's Helios' Ray, Hermes Winged Staff
20. Pinata - Liana

You have been waiting for these teams for a long time! The teams have arrived!

The teams of Draft horses and Donkeys operate on the same principle as teams of horses and unicorns.

So you can raise donkeys and horses with your friends and enjoy the features of the teams, such as horse loan, teammates, team forum, common affix, Team, etc.

Rating and rating:

The scoring of the breeding farms (horses born this month) is left out for now, but donkeys and draft horses have been added to the team ranking page.
As with unicorns, the Rosettes and Grand Prix rankings do not appear for donkeys and draft horses.
The teams of draft horses and donkeys, therefore retain the following rankings:
* Prestige
* Genetic potential
* Births
Donkey Details:
We take this opportunity to remind you that the purpose of donkeys is to decrease their genetic potential, rather than to increase it. Thus, the Genetic Potential ranking is reversed compared to other species: teams with the lowest genetic potential are displayed first.

The Equus page gets a new look, to fit the style of the Pass page. In addition, we took the opportunity to make some adjustments.

A "Free" tab has been added, to directly access the offers that earn you Equus free for watching videos.
The possibility of purchasing Equus with diamonds was withdrawn, as very few players used it.
Finally, offers to purchase Equus with passes have been revised to offer you more choices:
1 pass: 50,000 Equus (instead of 40,000 previously)
3 pass: 200,000 Equus (instead of 180,000 previously)
10 pass: 800,000 Equus
20 pass: 2,000,000 Equus (New)

Howrse will be removing the trophies for the companions since it is difficult for new players to obtain them. To replace them will be a "horses sent to Safe Haven" trophy.
Here's a link to my post about it with an image

snowball fight be announced in enough time before the first one is thrown? Just wondering so I can try to get a good start

Companions were used to have foals play games. Without a companion, a player couldn't increase the foals skills (or GP i forget when that change occurred). That meant that players who couldn't buy companions had a disadvantage. I also believe that the companions who could be bought with passes (The divine pets) would give an extra boost. Since we no longer play the game that they, there is no reason to bring back companions as they would only cause headache and problems for the people trying to make the game run. To re-add the the needed material for a companion would take a lot of effort and have to do more with just letting them be added to a promo. There is a lot of what if questions that would need to be answered.

Regarding the DA, they were only removed because of the issues they caused for people. They weren't reliable and support got flooded with messages about them not working. We tried them for a long time before they were removed

As much as I hate to see it go, it was bound to happen. The common ones are getting hard and more expensive to buy. I have had the same companion trophies since it started simply because the others are too expensive for me to buy or I am unable to find them. They aren't coming back so it was a feature that at some point will be removed completely because it will be a waste of space. Other than trophies, they offer nothing to the horse or user.

I am only worried about what they will do to replace the trophies in return. I am a person who likes to play to complete the trophies and so I would like something that is more achievable to replace them.

As for them changing to the new players and ignoring the old, who do you think has great numbers, the people who play the game for the game and with more than 2 years logged on or those with less than 2 years logged on? I would bet it is those with less so the developers need to find ways to keep those players on here because they will spend money too.

I think the snowball fight might start on Thursday as the tree promo ends tomorrow and promos generally start on that day.

very glad i never wasted money on collecting companions

If you won a trophy in real life you won it forever. It or its winners/history never "disappeared". So when Howrse announced that if some part of the basis for that trophy ( like add an extra horse to the collection) you lost it and in order to get it back you had to get the "extra" thing they added to have the trophy back.

I was so against it that trophy winning was never a goal for me ( and that is just me although a lot agreed with me). So somehow any changes other than make it a permanent icon, like the Wandering horses or GP wins you get on your presentation page ( which they could do very easily) simply told me collecting trophies would carry a lot of change potential in the future.

Companions were used to have foals play games. Without a companion, a player couldn't increase the foals skills (or GP i forget when that change occurred). That meant that players who couldn't buy companions had a disadvantage. I also believe that the companions who could be bought with passes (The divine pets) would give an extra boost. Since we no longer play the game that they, there is no reason to bring back companions as they would only cause headache and problems for the people trying to make the game run. To re-add the the needed material for a companion would take a lot of effort and have to do more with just letting them be added to a promo. There is a lot of what if questions that would need to be answered.

Maybe they could add the companions back as just a bonus item like Bell Boots and Spurs. I would think they already have the coding since they sold them in the store before.

Well....if the true motivation for removing the companions trophies is to replace them with trophies where it is imagined that it will be easier for new players (or any player for that matter) to send thousands of horses to SH, I am afraid I can't see the underlying logic. Something else seems to be going on.