In all honestly, although I hate that the pass horses are being taken away, this is good for some players. For instance, new players who don't have the AP/equus to age/buy pass horses now can get about ten passes each month, even though I do know that it is harder to get ten points now. Even though I believe the vast majority is correct about the fact that we should be allowed to keep pass horses, at least some players who had no chance before have one now

I know that a lot of player don't have resources to age hoses or buy pass horses, but if they decided to find a solution, they would realise that they don' need anything but some horses and taking care of them frequently. Even a new player can work up a system where they get that 10 passes per month, and they only need approximately 6 months to do that. Of course 6 months is a long period of time, but after that they wouldn't need to buy pass horses or do other expensive things. In my opinion, it would decrease the grumbling if we could pass the information to everybody that they don't need to be rich, only to work a little bit and wait some time at the beginning. I am aware of the fact that not everybody would be satisfied, but maybe less people would complain about the pass horse system. I agree with you that some player is happy, because they didn't want to spend time with pass horses or didn't know that they could get 10 passes/month with some work. For them, this change is good, because 4-6 passes/month is more than zero. (I'm not sure that we can get more seeing the results on the other servers who have the changes already). But I think they are the minority of the players. Or at least not the majority. So it would be better if we could assure the Owlient team that this change is very problematic. But if we can't, it is better to see the good thing in it. I'm afraid that I won't be able to do it.

Considering there will be a ranking for this, people probably "will" be more willing to kill to maintain their trophy ranking

Oops "trophy" before "ranking" wasn't meant to be there

Do we know if these new rankings are just for fun, or will they count towards something particular like the general ranking, etc. ? Also will any new trophies be added?

i'm all for change...dont get me wrong...but isnt this a little unfair to those who play on the mobile version of howrse and who cant access laptops and the like? The mini games do not work on the phones or even if you put your phine onto the computer version...so we wouldnt be able to benefit from it. We wouldnt even be able to use it.

My absolute only way of getting passes have been from pass horses as I simply cannot afford to pay money for them or sell horses for them as I dont have any worth selling for a pass.

I think howrse should reconsider this.

These new ones appear under the "Best Breeder" ranking page.

The top left is for any horse horse sent to heaven regardless of age, the one on the right is for horses older than 25 sent to heaven, and the bottom one is the Safe Haven ranking. The 3 horses I've sent to Heaven this month so far are all 25+. I haven't wasted any younger horses. Even for pixels it's a little morbid to kill off younger horses for a ranking. And looking at the top 20 for the first two rankings it seems other players there feel the same as most of the numbers are the same for the players that show up in both rankings. Some might be off by one or two but it looks like not many are sending younger horses to heaven. The divine and new rankings really add nothing productive or useful to the game.

trophy for the divine as well.

Can someone please point me to the page number where I can read all about this new pass horse change? I couldn't find it. thank you!

rankings, the one I **really** disagree with is the one for sending horses (of any age) to heaven. Horses sent to heaven aged 25+ at least means the horse was kept alive until its health began to drop naturally (though personally I would prefer it be horses aged 30+ to keep it in line with the age of pass horses), but the ranking for most horses of any age sent to heaven means that you have to actively be killing off younger horses if it is any different to your "most old horses sent to heaven" ranking. It is, essentially, a ranking that rewards playing the game badly - if your horses are dying young, you are doing something wrong!

The Safe Haven ranking I don't have much issue with - while the end result is the same (the bulk of the horses' information is deleted), at least in game terms the horse is still 'alive' and was simply sold which is less morbid than a ranking for dead horses. The old horses ranking is slightly morbid, but isn't really any worse than pass horses are. The ranking for total number of horses sent to heaven should just be scrapped - "who can kill the most foals" should not be a ranking

I don't think this divine has any affect on other rankings, though. It's just its own seperate thing to try to amend for pass horses.

There is going to be a ranking for horses killed. That is what I am talking about.