I agree that it is such an insult to not only Norse mythology but history as well.
Agree with everything you said.
This quote below is pretty much how I feel about the divine






If the system ain't broke, why make a change to it? This will NOT deter multi-accounters as they will just keep on finding ways of cheating.
They say the want to reward the "real" players of the game, but they are just hurting those very players they claim they want to reward.

Pass horses were a big majority of players games. NOT just for passes. They helped get aging points everyday, helped with the daily missions for player's equestrian centers, you can also use them in 1 or 2 competitions a day just to earn some equus.
Yes a lot of players sold them for equus, but when I did sell, I sold at a cheaper more affordable price.
This change hobbles players games. Takes away the strategy of how you play the game.

You have to earn points, for example if you did the same thing everyday, one day you get all 10 points and the next day you might get 8 points. Then on the third day play a mini game that is difficult for players.


Not everyone can sign in everyday, people have obligations outside of the games and they will go from getting around 30 passes to possibly around 5 passes a month.

Not to mention players who play on tablets or their phones. The mini game is not accessible or freezes up/just does not show up. Hinders their game.

A lot of players games are going to get scaled back. Nice going with another chip chipping away at strategy. This game was all about strategy, now its become all about who has the most divines and who has the most trophies.

i just came up with my 2nd question about this new system. Could it be possible players may be able to get 20 passes this November (if howrse does the change)? By killing 10 horses before the update and then conintuing the update (1 pass possibly every 3 days)?

No, I don't think so. As Nov. 8th is on the second week. You could possibly get 16-19 passes though. Keep in mind that Nov. 8th is only for the servers testing the update right now. Howrse said that they didn't have a set date for this server yet. At least that's what they said last week, anyways.

Lol old player here that is not "hip" to the changes you all are talking about. What's the deal with pass horses?

"Pass horses were a big majority of players games. NOT just for passes. They helped get aging points everyday, helped with the daily missions for player's equestrian centers, you can also use them in 1 or 2 competitions a day just to earn some equus.
Yes a lot of players sold them for equus, but when I did sell, I sold at a cheaper more affordable price. "

AP farming isn't really connected to pass horses, other than the fact that AP horses inevitably become pass horses. Losing pass horses won't stop us from AP farming (unless I've missed a really big change), so we will still get the AP/money from missions/comps. Many people who AP farm are equally/more concerned about getting the APs than the passes they will eventually get.
However it does mean that those horses can't then be sold as pass horses, and therefore cuts into the profits a lot of people make from them. Even at 20yo they can be sold for 50k+, which can then be used to buy whatever else your game needs.
I definitely agree that this will throw off the strategy a lot of people have for their game. While we've had to deal with big changes that require significant alterations to our approach to the game before (e.g. the merge of the EC and breeding sides if the game), this seems like a big change that is being done for little to no reason; it doesn't improve gameplay, it isn't something players have been asking for, and it doesn't seem to come with any real benefits ("look at the shiny divine" stopped being a benefit some years ago, when shiny new divines started being released every other week).


"To start with, those 'games', are often hand eye coordinated, physically difficult for those with disabilities. I have accepted that there are some promo's that I just can't do, but it seems extraordinarily unfair to make those passes virtually out of reach for those of us with disability."

Those of us with disabilities, those of us with non-compatible devices, those of us with slow internet that causes a lot of lag, those of us who are just generally bad at timed games...
If Owlient really want this change to be for the 'real' players, then there *needs* to be an opt out option for these mini-games. There are too many people having trouble with them for them to be a fair requirement for getting the passes we already have to gather points to earn. The loss of one pass a month is not the end of the world - in the past, I often didn't bother with it anyway because it cost too much to be worth it - but the loss of ten passes a month because of mini-games would be a huge blow to my game. One of the reasons I stuck with Howrse for so long is because it didn't have a bunch of 'groom the horse' mini-games like so many other horse sims do - I'd really like that not to change.

If the pass horse thing is true, I may leave the game for good (I've played a few times over several years).

I rely on the guaranteed 10 and really only buy passes if there's a divine that I REALLY want or to re-up my VIP account. The leftover horses I have, I keep for later passing or selling. I don't buy pass horses, they come from farming my horses and eventually becoming old enough to get a prize out of. The idea of getting a divine from killing older horses that will do little to nothing to help my game doesn't sit kindly with me. The thought of there being a ranking for killing the most horses is just ludicrous.

This is a bad change. It's not helpful. It's not going to stop multi-account players. I have a hard time getting my points in for the 1 pass now within the 30 days and I play and blup every day. If you're going to be doing changes like this, there needs to be a full disclosure of HOW to get the points needed.

If you want to retain players, then give us a reason to stay, not a reason to leave!

A useless divine, that oh wait for it, we can look at pictures of his different phases he has gone through as he has grown. Really what do you take us for 3 year olds?
Then to give us an achievement for the most horses we kill that are over the age of 25, how morbid can you get?

I agree with this. Did I hear there's going to be a ranking for horses *under* 25 killed too? Oh, so we'll be killing foals all over the place and the #1 in the ranking achieves the highly prestigious title of...what exactly....slaughter master?

Please excuse my harshness. Of course the #1 of any ranking deserves respect as it takes resources and time etc for any of those rankings, but it's very morbid to me. I think this change will hurt many players and I can't anticipate being on a computer all the time when a tablet is 80% of my Howrse availability...and you simply can't do minigames on there. Plus, it seems like we lose out on the extra 20 passes you could get up to that 30 pass limit with the pass horses, which will hurt some player's income greatly.

It has been said over and over and over again. Nov 8 is for the three servers it was tested on. Absolutely NO date has been set for ANY of the English servers and you should do what you normally do until/if a date is set.

Do not listen to those that this date is confirmed for every server as it is total bunk.

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I suppose, in some way, Howrse is granting the newbie wish of having and easy divine to get. On another note, they're also trying to pacify us with it. But since it's so easy to get, it's going to be a dumb divine that does nothing at all to help your game. (As far as we can tell, since there don't seem to be any true perks). So, Howrse is trying to accomplish two things at once, however the divine is going to be stupid because it doesn't require passes, and since it is so boring, it's not going to pacify anyone whatsoever. The excitement of 'ooh, i have a divine!' is taken away because if anyone can get it easily, it's not in the LEAST bit special. The only thing to it's name is that it's got the Label of a divine. Even though it grows and it's appearance changes just like any other horse, and oh, it's got a photo album? HOW is that related to horses in any way? Honestly, it's not. And if that's all it does, this divine is going to be a serious waste of somebody's time spent coding.

Howrse thinking this divine is going to make up for them taking away 20 passes or possibly more if you don't log in every single day (oh, Howrse, LOYAL does not necessarily mean logging on every single flipping DAY, and doing stuff that can take a lot of time, sheesh, I feel that it should be that you log in at least two times a week or something) is totally CRAZY, because at least the sellable divines are WORTH some passes, while this one is worth 10 dead horses. Which once upon a time would have been equal to 10 passes, but is now worth nothing. How much more morbid can you get?

Having a divine that is so easy to get that even newbies can get one with little work doesn't just mean it won't be special, it is also likely to wreak havoc in the divine comps. It can be hard enough to find comps for some divines as it is - especially those that have 200 in every skill and already have 20 wins - because of the sheer number of them now on the game. Regardless of what skill level this new divine has, if all that is required to get it is killing off horses there will be so many of them on the game that they will swamp the comps at that level - and unless Howrse has suddenly decided to give everybody a comp monster à la the butterfly Wandering Horses (which would be even worse), it is likely to be another divine in that 200-400 per skill range we already have so many of.

Mr. Bonzai, the Divine, is not all that spectacular in terms of purpose. His perks might just blow your mind! Perhaps the perks evolve in coordination to his size. (would make sense right..?). Idk, it's more of a status symbol of who's better at killing off old horses I s'pose: which for me isn't an issure, .

Again, I'm stilling thinking Howrse is putting our newer players into override, too. + Joblitzen summed up a good amount.

The Cards are the next promo after this one. (:

its the next promo after this, and aparently Greyfell is coming back with it! does anyone know if you can get more than one Greyfell in the promo? Last time you could only win one

Seriously - a ranking for how many horses you kill? What even is that?!
The fact you are rewarded for killing horses is nasty anyway, even if it is a crucial part of the succeeding in the game; but actually getting players to try and kill as many horses as possible? What are you thinking howrse? Whats the point?
This game is about breeding horses for skills, genetic potential and coat colours; trying to win the most rosettes per month and getting placed in the grand prix with a skiller you bred and trained. This is a family friendly game - but i don't know why a child would want to kill their horses on purpose soley for a ranking, or why an adult would either.

I think its time to rethink this approach howrse. What are you really trying to do?