so i am discussing the pass change cause that is coming up. sorry if you think it is arguing. i am not arguing i am talking or discussing it.

The thing with the pass horses is not just the loss of passes people will suffer each month but also the loss of equus from selling those pass horses. Pass horses sell for 150k+ and are always in demand (especially with the constant promos), which make them a very nice source of income. In some cases, selling a pass horse can actually be more valuable to your game than killing it for the pass, e.g. the money from two pass horses is enough to buy a 300k P Stone from the Exchanges, while killing them would leave you one pass short. Removing them will disrupt more than just some players' pass income.

If this change is inevitable then at the very least I hope works better than the Loyal Player Pass, and that we don't have to complete more asinine mini-games to 'earn' passes we already should have earned by gathering the necessary points. If I want to braid tails or groom horses, there are hundreds of other online games out there where I can do so (and most of them work far better than the Howrse mini-games). One of the appealing things about Howrse is (?was) that it is a mostly text based game that doesn't have constant mini-games to gather resources - you can develop a strategy and stick to it, knowing that a laggy internet connection is not going to ruin your chances of getting the passes you have worked for.
Some people do like the mini-games, so I'm not suggesting we get rid of them, but they should be optional, not a requirement for getting the pass once the points bar is filled. Allow us to opt out of them in our account settings or something, so those of us who do not want to or cannot play the mini-games can still get the pass we have earned.

I also think we should get a definite list of actions that may earn us points. Not a definite "do these ten things each day to get ten points" but something like "these 100 actions can earn points, exactly which ones earn points will change daily", so we at least know what we need to try to do each day to earn our points.

I agree. Knowing what actions you should do such as in the GC is much easier than aimlessly doing things hooping you have enough points to get a bonus pass. I never go over my 10 passes as I grow leather and that still leaves me 600k short each month for 10 passes. Also I only use my 10 passes for my VIP as the risk of spending 160k on a lyre makes me crazy

You will have to not only do mini games, you will have to earn 30 points to play a mini game.

And players have agreed that doing the same thing everyday did not get you 10 points. So there are a lot of players that are not going to get their ten passes each month with this ludicrous new pass change.
Some think this will deter multi-accounters, when the game is just hurting the very players they claim they want to reward.

I agree with you, that they should be more specific with how you earn points toward the LOYAL PLAYER PASS, but as usual with "howrse" and I use that term loosely, we know they will never reveal their secrets because they are afraid they will lose money.


I have asked some how will players be earning 1 more pass with this new change over the old system when you could send horses to heaven to get 30 passes.

Not everyone was selling pass horses for ridiculous amounts of equus. I always sold pass horses at a more affordable and cheap price and I didn't always sell pass horses.

The thing is this will affect a lot of players games, this will hurt how they STRATEGICALLY played the game for years.
My pass horses were used for multiple things not just sending them to heaven or occasionally selling them for some equus. They were used for the daily missions and lessons for my own equestrian center. They helped collect iron and some days I also entered them into 1 or 2 competitions to earn equus. They also helped collect aging points. You did also get black market items worth 1 pass when you sent them to heaven.

Howrse says they want to reward "real" players. We ARE your real players.

I have been loyal to this game for a very long time. I have also bought passes with REAL money to support this game, but I have stopped buying passes.

Its not about the passes, it was how players strategically played the game. Pass horses were a major asset to a lot of players, with the missions, aging point farming and competing in competitions.

I'm not quitting the game. I'm staying to watch howrse slowly decay into ruin.

@LatteGurl....

"Oh and I also believe howrse has absolutely no way of finding multiaccounters.
I remember being a young and niave howrse player and saw someone with accounts named xxxxxx1, xxxxxx2, xxxxxxxx3, and xxxxxx4. I said to myself "oh let me kindly send my findings to contact us, im sure they would be greatful to have some help" and so I sent the account names along with a little letter and thought I was a good samaritan. Lo and behold, I get a letter back saying to mind my own business and that howrse has this amazing way of finding and deleting every multi account. "

If Howrse had this amazing tool to find the multi-accounters - why in the world then do they need to take away something from us (the customers) that so-called will aid in the halting of said multi-accounters.

No matter what UBIKILL does, there will always be multi-accounters. Who cares. What you, them, even my team mates do on this game has absolutely NO affect on me. Do I agree with these multi accounters - NO! But the point is that howrse allegedly has a tool to find and delete them....they do not need to change the pass horses!