And Legacy Ann's masterpost for the T___ T___ promo:



Legacy Ann's original post can be found on page 1903, Kušni's is on page 1909

Reposting Kušni's C___ C___ masterpost on the new page for all to see.

@Phaedre| I think it might start this weekend? But I could be wrong.

Oops, sorry for that double post. It didn't show up the first time when I looked

Additional info on the T___ T___ promo:
Divine


T___T___ Prize List


D__F___ Medallion


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I gathered up all the information from assorted posts on pages before 1904. If you need more info, you can probably find it back there somewhere if you look harder than I did. (I just skimmed through for stuff to bring back up)

I can fill in the missing information;

Thanks ShorahNagi!

Agree 100%. Howrse gives people who are unable to buy passes (for whatever reason) an option to get them for free. I know many pay-to-play games that have much more stringent systems, and give much less (if anything) for free. Sure, we might not be getting unlimited passes, it might not be very many, but... hey, it's a start?

Players can be upset all they like (and they're right to be, to an extent, since it's been this way for, what, 6 years?), but the real honest truth is that if you don't want to play, you don't have to - and Howrse won't actually lose anything if players who never bought passes in the first place continue not buying them (if they quit). Literally no one is forcing you to stay and deal with this change.

Although, I do agree that if you went through the trouble of getting the 30 points, you should be able to just click a button for the pass, without doing a minigame that some systems may not be able to run / some players may not be able to do (for whatever reason).

looked like we had moved on but then someone said this


Sure, we might not be getting unlimited passes, it might not be very many, but... hey, it's a start?




no it is not a start. how can you say that when it is a HUGH step backward

to go from 30 passes a month to what they are now offering is not a start.

so you are assuming that everyone that is upset is a non pass buyer. simply not true at all.


i also find it very rude that some players are telling the ones who are upset that they are complaining and to shut it. that is not acceptable. they are simply voicing their opinions just like everyone else.

i was quiet through so many changes but no i will not be quiet anymore. being quiet only lets things get worse.

i remember once all the players banded together on some change and i am sorry i do not remember what it was and that change did not happen. (so at that time howrse did listen but i think that was before ubikill)

but that doesn't mean we can't band together now

"Nothing was "taken away", it was revised.

All companies need to look at their product and how it sells. I don't know of any company that won't make a change ( for any reason) if they feel it is the right thing. If they decided to only offer a 20% discount on an item that usually has a 30% discount then they will.The 30% discount is a privilege, never a right.

That does not stop anyone from voicing disappointment and that company may even lose a buyer. It happens, part of life. It is how that disappointment is presented. That company is more likely to listen to voices that offered suggestions on a rework without any rhetoric that goes to the level some have expressed here"

Spyder, what you are saying is correct, to some degree. However, I am quite against your condemnation of the protests here. Yes, the free passes are a privilege. Though it seems strange and a bit cruel that Howrse suddenly decides to drop what we can get to even lower for no apparent reason, or at least, without explaining. Many companies upon making changes to their products, explain why. Has Howrse truly done that? No. As far as privileges go, one could say that the fact we are able to sell horses is a privilege. Or the fact that we can create coats for the game a privilege. Are they necessary to the game? It is up to Howrse to decide. We never said Howrse COULD NOT change the pass system. But the customer is always right, and by changing the system, it could cause Howrse some serious damage.

I'm also curious, why is it absolutely certain that people are thinking of free passes as a right? That generalization could be extremely incorrect. People could be simply protesting at the sudden reduction in their privilege for no clear reason. If a parent decides to take away the child's privilege of say, using their phone except for 20 minutes a day without giving a reason, that child is going to start protesting! If however, the parent says to them "well, I'm taking it away because your studies have gotten worse, and I always see you playing on your phone, so I conclude that it is affecting your studies" the child might be pacified somewhat. And perhaps the parent and child could come to some sort of compromise or deal. But Howrse has told us nothing.

One might also say that the fact that the game is free is also a privilege. So how, may I ask, would you like it if Howrse was a pay to play game, and you were unable to sell horses, or create coats? I'm fairly certain you wouldn't like it at all. But it IS Howrse's right to change that, is it not? Of course. But as a player and user of the website, it is CERTAIN that we have a right to produce our feedback on these changes. If we don't like it and there is no clear reason for it, it is fine for us to voice our opinions against it. People have their theories of why Howrse is doing these things, of course, but no true reason has been stated by Howrse. However, considering many of the other changes they've been making, it's pretty clear Howrse is trying it's best to get us to spend more money.

The thing is, before the changes, Howrse was not so greedy for money. Suddenly out of the blue, Howrse decides to crop down and down so thing are harder for us to accomplish without spending money. And it IS taking away. Perhaps no the privilege of having free passes itself, but we have undeniably lost the ability to gain 30 passes a month through old horses.

Absolutely, it is true that all companies look at their product and how it sells. And of course they do make adjustments so it sells better. Howrse believes the changes they make are going to help it sell better. However, we have been giving them feedback that it is not. Any smart company, upon receiving negative feedback from their buyers, would try to modify their change so it suited the buyer's needs/wants. But has Howrse done this, or voiced a reason for what they did? No.

Now, usually buyer feedback is relayed through surveys, or forms, etc, etc. Perhaps less loud means of protest. But, despite surveys taken, and contact us forms sent, Howrse is not changing the fact that they are changing the system. So we can rant directly AT the Howrse team through messages, since nothing is happening. Or petition. Or something else. We might as well try, since nothing seems to really be getting through to them. And honestly, considering the changes made to the game thus far, do you REALLY think Howrse is going to listen to player-made ideas for running the company? It's doubtful, since they hardly stop what they're doing when we tell them they don't like it, much less will they accept ideas for running the game. Nor do they give any public signs that they listen to us at all, or if they do, I certainly haven't seen them. It takes multiple messages through the contact us to even get a reply that sounds like someone actually used their brain and thought about what they wrote in it, rather than a insincere thanks for your input note from a computer program.

And since nothing we've tried works, what is the matter with voicing our opinions in other ways? I don't know about where you live, but I do know that in the USA things have gotten done simply because someone yelled at someone else or a petition was signed and accepted. And as for the people talking here, you make another unfair assumption, assuming that what we say here is for the Howrse team to read and take note of. Not necessarily true, mind you. People are also here to just voice their opinions. Like me, who has already sent a contact us message to the Howrse team. I'm not writing lengthy essays to the Howrse team. Just short simpler messages that voice exactly what I think without a bunch of explaining that Howrse can fill in for themselves.

Simply, many of us are unhappy because our privilege is being suddenly chopped down. perhaps with some good reasoning from the Howrse team, we an be a little more accepting, or with a compromise.

*On a side note, I'm really curious about your actual opinions on the change. You are telling us that we shouldn't complain so much, so I kind of assume you are for it, but I can't tell? So I'd like to ask if you are for or against the change, or if it doesn't matter to you? Thank you.

^^^I must say that this is very well-put Joblitzen. I've been very frustrated with the game for some time now, and it seems you've summed up most of it in words.

Has anyone else noticed that all these changes seem to coincide with execs appointing the new Ow? Wonder if the old Ow got wind of it and decided to leave...

when is the next event comeing out?

Coming at this from another angle, if I may, the people who have the time and the energy (personally I find aging out Pass Horses so incredibly boring and tedious I can never stick with them for 7 and a half months to get from birth to death, far far too slow and too boring) should be rewarded, not penalized and discouraged from their awesome task most of us hate to have to do.

So getting back to my point here, the stats that these players afford Howrse and Owlient in securing outside advertising must be literally over the top. How many online games have people playing for the hours at a time Howrse Players are logged on? Not many.

Outside advertisers want to know how many people are logging on on a daily basis and how long they are staying on, once logged in. And to squelch the individuals who have the time and patience to be able to age out horses, both for us to buy for pass horses, and for them to accrue Aging Points as well as their own pass reserves, will speak volumes to Howrse in lost Outside advertisers Dollars; which their projected change in administration will kill those sales statistics.

Therefore I am confused, it either means that Howrse does not have a Sales/Marketing person OR Howrse are not soliciting outside advertising, OR that there is another unknown rock in Howrse's road that give cause to Outside Advertisers so that they do not want to support this game.

?????

* First I wrote dead horse and then I modified in corpse. Sorry, the corpse is...already dead

Most likely - tomorrow. I doubt that we will be granted a rest.

They usually come out on Thursday's, so I'm guessing tomorrow or next week.


But.... I really really really want that new BMI!!!

Can someone please say already what T___ T___ means? Even in a spoiler banner is fine? I keep going through so many posts but it';s a little annoying having it only be said with blanks and the actual name not being in any spoiler banners

There was a post a while back with their perks I'll post them here:

Egyptian Divines perk:


Angels Perk:


Doctors Perk:


Werewolf's perk:

Regarding the upcoming change :

Again, AMEN sister

And I could not quote Joblitzen - but AMEN to you as well.

Player numbers will not really matter to Ubikill (I love that) as there will always be more players to come along. What WILL matter is the existing players that pay to play (like myself) no longer paying.

I have been sleeping on this whole pass change for the pass few nights: my immediate reaction is to QUIT. Quit a game I have loved for 9 years - but that is a bit overreacting.

So if UBIKILL wants to enact this most outrageously stupid pass change - then fine - you no longer get my money and a lot of other players money. I spend onwards of $1200 us dollars a year here - that will stop. And I know a lot of other players that spend way more than I do that will stop as well....

So go ahead and make the change and lose your $change$!