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By Retired breeder, 18th October 2016 16:57:22


That should be in spoilers
Oh, really? default smiley ;) cool!default smiley ;)
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look everyone thinking you will be getting more passes after the pass horse change or a free pass you are sadly mistaken

right now you can get 30 passes per month plus if you can work the stupid 10 points per day and do that annoying mini game you can get a pass (it was better the other way after 30 days you can get a pass with your equus)

it clearly states that every three days it is POSSIBLE to get a pass you have to get a certain amount of points every day to get that. so it will be just like that stupid free pass with the mini game IF you get the said points. (unless they are changing that to this stupid every three days)

you will be getting LESS passes per month, not more. they are hobbling you so you will be FORCED to buy passes (howrse has gotten way to greedy since ubikill has taken over)

anyone who is upset can send a ticket to contact us and probably get a survey to give your opinion.

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don't know if you can simply type it in and get it but there it is just in case
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Taking care of pass horses is really simple. Do a daily mission, stroke, groom, water, feed and put to bed.

You can do 1 or 2 competitions with them and that earns you equus. By taking care of horses everyday you get aging points.

I don't think you understand that this new system is just like the LOYAL PLAYER PASS thing. You still have to work to gain points to get your passes and its completely random and even if you do the same thing everyday you might not get all the points.



Exactly. Really not that difficult to work pass horses. default smiley :)



Why would howrse have another divine offering passes when Croesus already gives players a pass per month, two passes if 13th of the month falls on a Friday.


And do you really think howrse is just going to give this divine out to players for free?

The only time players did get a divine for free is the advent calendar and they don't host very often now do they.



That is the exact attitude of players who are lazy and want things given to them without having to work for the reward.

I'm not always able to get all my pass horses sent to heaven to get all 30 passes but I do get more than 10 passes.


I think people really need to understand that with this new system you are LOSING more than gaining a reward.

With this new system you are LOSING 20 passes and only gaining 10 passes per month.

That is INCREDIBLY STUPID! Especially considering that long ago for a while you could send as many pass horses as you wanted to heaven to passes and then it was changed so players can only get 30 passes per month.

With getting 30 passes per month you could easily spend 10 passes to get a VIP account and still have 20 passes to breed and get higher in the general ranking. Or maybe you are one of those players who likes to participate more actively in the promotions or both. Maybe you don't want a VIP account and you choose to get 2 months of a Pegasus account subscription by spending 6 passes by buying it twice and still have enough passes leftover to do whatever you want with them.

The new system does NOT allow you do to that and really are you sure you are going to get 10 passes a month. People are already complaining in the forums about how they cannot complete a mini game for the LOYAL PLAYER PASS.
Not to mention it has been discussed on page 1,914 that you have to do something everyday to get points to be able to get that pass and it is even stated more than once that doing the SAME thing everyday did NOT always get you the 10 points, because howrse cannot make up their mind and continue to be MISERLY with the passes.

I didn't know Mr. Scrooge was running the game now.


To sum it up about the pass system. " If it ain't broke, DON'T fix it."default smiley (li)
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@Marble and everyone else

sorry i forgot the spoiler thing
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Here is the info for the T__T__promo again for those who can't find it.

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I have.
The only thing I got back is that the pass change is coming here and the only reason they changed anything is to try and improve the game.

I asked them how limiting black-market items and forcing us to lose 21 passes a month is an improvement, I don't expect to get a good answer.

Instead I expect them to go after the diamond divines next.
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Spyder
your forgetting the free pass every month, so it is actually 11 passes per month not 10
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Zilakla
I just hope that if enough people contact them that maybe they will think twice, but then again that is being to hopefull
I have a feeling that diamond divines are next as well, and that the divines that actually give out good BMI's will be targeted as well.
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See my thinking is on a different level.

A pass is a privilege not a right. That means you have to do something ( earn it) for that privilege and it can be removed at any time. If Howrse chose to take the whole pass system out of the equation it can. It was never a right.

Virtually all games operate under a two value system with game money ( equus) and real money. Some only accept real money bought via cards ( like iTunes or ones specifically for specific games) or directly from your bank account or sites like PayPal. This is real money.

Howrse has one of the few with 3 options with the two mentioned above and the third that has been discussed over that last few pages. If they went mainstream, the 10 or 30 or one extra loyalty pass would be dropped in its entirety.default smiley :s

We have to stop thinking this is our right.
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By Retired breeder, 18th October 2016 17:44:33
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I'm afraid I see a lot of confirmation bias as well as a lot of spoilers in this post. I put your quote in spoilers just in case someone didn't want to know.

My response:

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It would be great if you were *guaranteed* (emphasis) 10 points every day. It would also be great if NO ONE sent more than 10 pass horses a month—as opposed to the subjective statement: "Well *I* only send 10" default smiley ;)

This change would rob many players of hard earned passes. That's great if it would benefit you, but this is wrong for so many others. You have to think about more than just your game, and realize how the big name players and their passes/income affect the Howrse economy and us.

I know I'm not going to be able to get 10 points every day. I work hundreds of horses, breed, foal, sell, buy, trade, congratulate, and post in forums *every day* and do not get 10 points 100% of the time. It is seemingly randomized and purposely kept secret.

Not to mention, I don't have time to play every single day! I do have a life, and responsibilities sometimes get in the way. With a pass horse farm, this rarely impacts me. A day missed is a shrug. With the new system, that's an entire pass per month lost. I would not be able to afford a VIP membership with 10 OR LESS passes a month.

I understand the desire to defend a game you love but sometimes a change is BAD no matter how hard a company tries to make it sound good.
Here is the promo part of Kušni's post

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My point of argument is that they are beeing greedy with money... they will basically be forcing us to buy more passes to even play and keep higher rankings. I have worked hard for my passes and i like knowing what i need to do to get a pass... the new system you might not get your 10 points per day and you will not get even 10 passes per month is you miss those points.
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By Retired breeder, 18th October 2016 17:51:05
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A game creator can do whatever they want within their legal rights, that is true.

It is wrong to think that players should not/may not be going to speak their thoughts, get upset, and make the assumption that player satisfaction doesn't matter because it is *our* money and time to spend on the game that *they* want. This is a transaction.

If they want players, players must be happy and enjoy the game. Taking away things from the game can make it unenjoyable, and make players no longer wish to play. If a game creator wants to continue making money, they need players.

Us speaking out is doing them a favor. If we didn't, they would continue to make bad changes=lose players=lose money, and the game would shut down.
I have been scrolling back and I have found no answers - what are the changes being made to passes??

Sorry, I can't seem to put this in a spoiler messagedefault smiley :o

Thanks default smiley :)
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Nothing was "taken away", it was revised.

All companies need to look at their product and how it sells. I don't know of any company that won't make a change ( for any reason) if they feel it is the right thing. If they decided to only offer a 20% discount on an item that usually has a 30% discount then they will.The 30% discount is a privilege, never a right.

That does not stop anyone from voicing disappointment and that company may even lose a buyer. It happens, part of life. It is how that disappointment is presented. That company is more likely to listen to voices that offered suggestions on a rework without any rhetoric that goes to the level some have expressed here
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By Retired breeder, 18th October 2016 18:16:28


To put a spoiler put [spoiler*] in front of the message and [/spoiler*] at the end of the message. Remove the stars to make it work default smiley :)

Pass changes:
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Pass horses will be no more. The "Loyal Player Pass" system will replace it. Every day, you may earn up to 10 points, by doing random unknown tasks. 30 points will earn you 1 pass. So, theoretically, you could earn 1 pass every 3 days. This will cut the free pass limit down from the current 31 you can earn a month, to 10 a month (at best, since the tasks are unknown and change I would argue it isn't really possible to get 10 every month.) They will also be releasing a new divine that grows from sending horses to heaven. There is a quote of the master post a few pages back.
By Retired breeder, 18th October 2016 18:19:25
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Well,
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In the current system, you can send 10 horses over the age of 30 to heaven for 10 passes each month. You can win up to 20 more passes the same way, only it's a 1/3 chance of getting a pass after the first 10. And then there's the loyal player's pass that you can get every month, but only if you get the maximum points a day..

The new system will completely take away pass horses. Instead, by completing random actions on the game during the day, you will win points that fill the meter. Every three days, if you get the maximum points per day, you can get a free pass by playing a mini-game.
This would limit the amount of free passes a month to 10.
Also, touchscreen devices don't work for the mini-games. And there won't be a way around the mini-games.

The in-game actions that fill the meter would appear to be random. Every day, even if you do the same actions which won you the maximum points the previous day, may fall short the next due to the randomization. Nobody knows exactly what needs to be done in order to get the maximum points every day guaranteed.
By Retired breeder, 18th October 2016 18:22:32
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Yes, monthly passes are something Howrse doesn't have to give us. But people have put time and resources into their farms, is it really fair to suddenly make all that work pointless? I believe that Howrse should give something if it wishes to receieve something in return.
how about this

howrse having customers is not a right it is a privilege


keep yanking the rug out from under your customers and soon you will not have any customers

remember the customer is always right and if that many are upset then maybe you should change your way of thinking
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I disagree with your post. I like what GrimmjowxIchigo. You have to stop thinking about your game, this change affects a lot of players including myself.

Like I said to other players it is not that hard to take care of pass horses. My post is at the top of this page(1,915) about pass horse care. It is really that simple and easy.


And I'm going to use two quotes from my all time favorite movie, "Remember The Titans."

Gerry: "See man, that's the worst attitude I ever heard."

Julius: "Attitude reflects leadership, captain."


And if they don't like the attitude they are getting, then that should be a big clue stop being a Mr. Scrooge about it.default smiley (o)

You can talk about privileges and game all you want to, but at the end of the day, the customer is always right. Treat your customers like this, and you won't have customers very long to support what is left of this game.

It was quoted on one of the servers that they are making this stupid change because they want to reward the real players of this game."

WE ARE real players and this is how our loyalty gets treated by telling us we are not real players. I bought passes for this game, supported this game with real money, so my opinion does matter. If they want me to buy passes, no scratch that want more players to buy passes again, they stop making changes to things that don't need fixing.default smiley (li)


This is a quote for a lot of players like yourself who support this new change:

Julius:"Why should I give a hoot about you, huh? Or anyone else out there? nah what I'm gonna do is look out for myself and I'ma get mine."

Not thinking about the whole community and what this is going to do to our game economy and how it is going to affect other people. Nope just thinking about ourselves and how we are just too lazy to take care of pass horses because we want passes and want them now.
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By Retired breeder, 18th October 2016 18:26:50
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At the very least they should get rid of the mini-games. That way more people could actually get the passes.
I'm still hoping the new divine will have a perk that's actually worth something. But, because at the moment all we have is speculation, I suppose it's just a waiting game.
By Retired breeder, 18th October 2016 18:30:25
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Actually, it can be even simpler than that, all I do is: mission, feed, groom, bed.
By Retired breeder, 18th October 2016 18:32:32
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The truth of the matter is....

The powers that be could care less about our opinions (even when asked). We can rant on about it all day long and they are STILL going to take away the pass horses.

Yes, it is completely and utterly horrible. The game has gone down the shooter.

But they don't care and well - frankly - if they do make this change, they will see a HUGE decline in active accounts.

So be it. I can take my $1200 a year spent here elsewhere!!!!
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