[Info] NIB Horses
By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world  Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place! What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games. Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs  Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale. The NIB FAQ: What is a NIB horse? A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees. Are there green star NIB horses? These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth. **Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for! Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses? Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way. How can I get involved with NIB breeding? It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred! - Current Top GPs for NIB Horses: (bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP) Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*) Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen Barbs: 392.93 (1*) Brumbies: 441.30 (2*) Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen Donkeys: 300.42 Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*) Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*) Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*) Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*) Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen KWPN: 414.32 (1*) Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*) Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*) Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen Morgans: 411.95 (1*) Mustangs: 419.50 (1*) Nokota : 427.57 (2*) Paints: 461.44 (2*) Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*) Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*) Russian Don: 636.94 (13*) Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*) Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*) Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen Trakhener: 432.77 (1*) Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen Connemaras: 440.00 (2*) Fjords: 447.42 (1*) Haflingers: 496.41 (4*) Highland Pony: 409.22 Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*) Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*) Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen Welsh: 415.59 (1*) Percherons: 503.74 (3*) Shires: 461.15 (2*) Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*) - Current Top GPs for NIB Horses: (bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP) Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen Curlys: 4480.67 (391*) Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen Knabstruppers: 3611.72 Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*) Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*) Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*) Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen Rivenwood's update schedule: Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!** Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed: My NIB GP Entry Horse's Name: Horse's Breed (purebreds only please): Current GP: Link to the Horse's Page: |
I’m working with them! And I agree, I think they’re really cute
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I have a growing herd of Misaki. They are really fun to BLUP, I think!
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I'm also starting a herd of misaki.
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I have a small herd. I'm not looking to building a multi-generation group though. Got too many of the other breeds to work on for that.
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Group 1 GSH is close to having the whole of the original pairs finishes and a good portion of 2nd gens are on the way up. Groups 2-4 have much less activity and I’m still collecting coz I can’t help myself so might end up with 6 groups. Im still in the market for an RG Aussie female but I can work around it if I need too.
Also waiting for one more OG Aussie female but they have to wait till I get more Athena’s medals.
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I haven't been posting my own new top GPs lately....but in the interest of keeping the thread from going *poof* again, here's this guy:
Horse's Name: Tom Traubert's Blues Horse's Breed: Thoroughbred Current GP: 1270.69 (70*) 5th gen Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=79133502
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I'm not personally going to get into NIB projects but I thought I'd mention here that I have a few foundations, mostly thoroughbreds but also a misaki and a newfoundland unicorn that I am willing to arrange foal sales from prior to conception.
feel free to look at page or to DM me for more info
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How are all you NIB’ers doing?
Have you started the xmas craze yet? I’ve bought a few pressies, made a few cookies and have gone xmas decor crazy inside  We still need to find a tree
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This is so that Yankee Lady can find this thread
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Yes, back on after a year off for medical issues.
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Yes, back on after a year off for medical issues. So GREAT to see you back! *gigantic* Christmas hug send your way  And to all the fellow NIB'ers
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Asfridur, same to you. Wishing you and all NIBers a happy, healthy, prosperous, and blessed new year.
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I have some 0G curries available, if anyone interested.
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I try to check horse sales at least once a week. If I see any interesting OGs I buy them, after verifying they ARE OGs, then make them available to all NIBers for minimum cost. Check out my OG Foundations breeding farm.
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So finally starting my welsh line
wondering how many starters would be best I have 5 350 foundies currently How many do you all start with? thanks
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I’m doing a small project with 8 OG to start (6 mine, 2 a friends) but it all depends on how many generations you want or how much time you want to spend on it. My big project will have six groups starting with 64 horses in each, but I’m insane
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[quote=1404416179][author]Vala[/author]I’m doing a small project with 8 OG to start (6 mine, 2 a friends) but it all depends on how many generations you want or how much time you want to spend on it. My big project will have six groups starting with 64 horses in each, but I’m insane
[/quote:0]wow thankyou
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Also depends if you’re doing the inverted pyramid breeding plan or the other one who’s name escapes me. Feel free to message me if you want to talk about it, we also have a discord.
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I have no set plan, ill look into the pyramid thanks
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If you want to get a 6th generation NIBer you will need:
Foundations 64 = 32 breeding pairs 1st generation 32 = 16 breeding pairs 2nd generation 16 = 8 breeding pairs 3rd generation 8 = 4 breeding pairs 4th generation 4 = 2 breeding pairs 5th generation 2 = 1 breeding pair 6th generation 1 For each additional generation you need to double your foundation number. As to whether to use only your own or accept coverings from others, that is a matter of your trust in the other owners. If even ONE of your non-owned covering stallions goes "disappeared" (owner quits game or loses account while still owning stallion), your entire NIB line is wiped out.
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Hi everyone,
To new and old, a reminder that we have started a discord for those of the community! https://discord.gg/FzehwsJdYA Foundation sales also welcome!
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Yankee lady is correct, I’ve actually screenshotted all my original horses bloodlines so if something happens in the future I can still verify the NIB-edness
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Yankee lady is correct, I’ve actually screenshotted all my original horses bloodlines so if something happens in the future I can still verify the NIB-edness Unfortunately, sometimes this isn't enough. Or at least for rankings back in the day it wasn't, because people could edit the photo to show that a horse was NIB when it wasn't. I still won't do outside lines because of the potential danger of disappeared lines. I would be totally heartbroken if the first ever Appy 1* (I was the breeder), became illigitimate because his lines were broken.
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Also depends if you’re doing the inverted pyramid breeding plan or the other one who’s name escapes me. Feel free to message me if you want to talk about it, we also have a discord. What other breeding plan exists other than the pyramid one? I'm assuming the pyramid one is the traditional way of doing things. What's the other way?
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What other breeding plan exists other than the pyramid one? I'm assuming the pyramid one is the traditional way of doing things. What's the other way? I would love to know as well. Always interesting to learn something new NIB wise
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