[Info] NIB Horses

By Retired breeder, 17th November 2009 23:20:05
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It's about time the NIB breeders had their own corner of the world default smiley ;)

Curious about NIB horses? Want to know what a NIB horse is? You've come to the right place!

What is this topic for? NIB enthusiasts to find each other and help one another progress in their respective games.
Otherwise, you may use this topic to help others learn about NIBs, share your experience, and find friends that breed NIBs default smiley :)

Please do not use this topic for advertising horses for sale.

The NIB FAQ:

What is a NIB horse?
A NIB horse is a horse that is not inbred; every horse in its pedigree appears only once (with the exception of Ouranos and Gaia). Horses with "Horse Disappeared" in their pedigree are generally not accepted by NIB breeders unless the horses in question were bought before the horses disappeared and have verifiable pedigrees.

Are there green star NIB horses?
These horses have lower GP than green stars and other top horses, as not inbreeding limits the breeding availability and is slower to progress than breeding brothers to sisters and so forth.
**Misabel edit: The first Green star NIB horse was created on February 21, 2011 - a 6th generation Connemara pony with a star in stamina. He was the end result of a lot of hard work and effort, but now that some dedicated breeders have shown it can be done, we all have something to shoot for!

Are NIB horses considered better than green stars or inbred horses?
Goodness, no! Nobody here is attempting to make that claim. Just like the Zero GP horses, these players choose to play the game in their own challenging way.

How can I get involved with NIB breeding?
It's simple! Start by purchasing a few foundation horses, or horses whose pedigrees can be tracked down and verified as non-inbred. Then carefully breed them to create foals with good GP's and skills that are not inbred!


- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *original foundies* who had 350-351.2 GP)

Akhal-Teke: 433.29 (2*)
Appaloosa: 592.04 (10*) 6th Gen
Arabians : 847.17 (31*) 3rd Gen
Argentinean Criollo: 534.37 (7*) 1st Gen
Barbs: 392.93 (1*)
Brumbies: 441.30 (2*)
Canadian: 710.75 (18*) 2nd gen
Curly : 897.50 (33*) 3rd Gen
Donkeys: 300.42
Friesian : 507.78 (6*) 2nd Gen
Gypsy Vanner: 565.03 (9*)
Hackneys: 608.80 (11*) 2nd Gen
Hanoverians: 618.73 (12*)
Holsteiner: 584.14 (11*) 1st gen
Icelandic Horse: 431.19 (1*)
Irish Hunters: 452.22 (2*)
Knabstrupper: 564.89 (8*) 1st gen
KWPN: 414.32 (1*)
Lipizzans: 451.15 (2*)
Lusitanos: 558.72 (10*)
Marwari: 551.66 (8*) 1st gen
Morgans: 411.95 (1*)
Mustangs: 419.50 (1*)
Nokota : 427.57 (2*)
Paints: 461.44 (2*)
Peruvian Paso: 441.91 (2*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 509.03 (6*) 1st gen
Quarter Horse: 450.30 (2*)
Russian Don: 636.94 (13*)
Shagya Arabian : 767.55 (25*) 5th gen
Standardbreds: 469.76 (3*)
Tennessee Walkers: 378.92 (1*)
Thoroughbred: 1086.54 (52*) 7th Gen
Trakhener: 432.77 (1*)

Australian Pony: 581.44 (9*) 1st gen
Chincoteague Pony : 575.97 (8*) 1st gen
Connemaras: 440.00 (2*)
Fjords: 447.42 (1*)
Haflingers: 496.41 (4*)
Highland Pony: 409.22
Newfoundlands: 417.87 (1*)
Quarter Pony: 477.27 (4*)
Shetland : 591.53 (11*) 1st gen
Welsh: 415.59 (1*)

Percherons: 503.74 (3*)
Shires: 461.15 (2*)
Drum horse: 1911.21 (134*)

- Current Top GPs for NIB Horses:
(bred with the *'new' foundies* who have the higher GP)

Barb : 5010.37 (445*) 2nd gen
Camargue : 4944.16 (438*) 2nd Gen
Canadians: 4019.57 (346*) 3rd gen
Curlys: 4480.67 (391*)
Hanoverian: 5510.41 (494*) 1st Gen
Holsteiner: 4627.18 (405*) 1st Gen
Knabstruppers: 3611.72
Finnish : 7001.13 (*642*) 1st gen
French Trotter: 5674.95 (511*) 2nd gen
Friesian: 4608.48 (404*) 2nd Gen
Lustiano : 4977.80 (441*) 1st gen
Mangalarga Marchador: 7417.82 (685*) 4th gen
Marwari : 5409.48 (484*) 1st Gen
Nokotas: 5283.03 (471*) 3rd Gen
Paint Horse: 3094.08 (252*)
Purebred Spanish Horse : 6045.91 5th gen
Quarter Horse: 3104.63 (253*)
Russian Don: 6747.60 (617*) 1st Gen

Kerry Bog: 3892.85 (332*)
Newfoundland Pony: 6955.84 (639*) 1gen
Welsh: 6844.92 (627*) 2nd Gen

Ban'ei: 7638.35 (707*) 3rd gen
Drum Horse : 2378.86 (181*) 5th Gen
Percheron: 5508.49 (494*) 1st Gen
Shire : 5067.74 (451*) 2nd Gen


Rivenwood's update schedule:
Sundays: Players breeding non-inbred horses may post the GPs of the horses they think are amongst the highest in the breed in this topic. Complete details should include everything listed in the form below. **Please DO NOT Submit GPs for rankings EXCEPT on Sunday!**
Misabel will post the latest high GP's for NIB horses in each breed from the Sunday submissions. Horses will not be named

Please submit your entry to the current high NIB GP using the following format in a post. It is important you use this exact format so Misabel can locate your post easily, or your submission may be missed:

My NIB GP Entry
Horse's Name:
Horse's Breed (purebreds only please):
Current GP:
Link to the Horse's Page:
 
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By AidynGemini, 12th October 2023 12:11:11
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I’m working with them! And I agree, I think they’re really cute default smiley (7)
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By lbenedict15, 12th October 2023 18:34:49
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I have a growing herd of Misaki. They are really fun to BLUP, I think!
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By kooldogz7, 16th October 2023 17:13:07
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I'm also starting a herd of misaki.
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By tigrelily, 20th October 2023 02:31:29
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I have a small herd. I'm not looking to building a multi-generation group though. Got too many of the other breeds to work on for that.
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By Vala, 20th October 2023 02:52:39
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Group 1 GSH is close to having the whole of the original pairs finishes and a good portion of 2nd gens are on the way up. Groups 2-4 have much less activity and I’m still collecting coz I can’t help myself so might end up with 6 groups. Im still in the market for an RG Aussie female but I can work around it if I need too.
Also waiting for one more OG Aussie female but they have to wait till I get more Athena’s medals.
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By Misabel, 13th November 2023 04:37:25
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I haven't been posting my own new top GPs lately....but in the interest of keeping the thread from going *poof* again, here's this guy:

Horse's Name: Tom Traubert's Blues
Horse's Breed: Thoroughbred
Current GP: 1270.69 (70*) 5th gen
Link to the Horse's Page: https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=79133502
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By Red Raven, 13th November 2023 15:29:11
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I'm not personally going to get into NIB projects but I thought I'd mention here that I have a few foundations, mostly thoroughbreds but also a misaki and a newfoundland unicorn that I am willing to arrange foal sales from prior to conception.
feel free to look at page or to DM me for more info
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By Asfridur, 4th December 2023 14:24:23
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How are all you NIB’ers doing?
Have you started the xmas craze yet?

I’ve bought a few pressies, made a few cookies and have gone xmas decor crazy inside default smiley ^)
We still need to find a tree
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By Storms Ransome, 15th December 2023 23:33:41
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This is so that Yankee Lady can find this thread default smiley :) default smiley (lol)
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By Yankee Lady, 17th December 2023 20:40:11
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Yes, back on after a year off for medical issues.
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By Asfridur, 18th December 2023 14:43:54
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Yankee Lady wrote:

Yes, back on after a year off for medical issues.

So GREAT to see you back!

*gigantic* Christmas hug send your way default smiley (l)

And to all the fellow NIB'ers default smiley :)
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By Yankee Lady, 18th December 2023 21:07:53
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Asfridur, same to you. Wishing you and all NIBers a happy, healthy, prosperous, and blessed new year.
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By Yankee Lady, 18th December 2023 21:08:49
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I have some 0G curries available, if anyone interested.
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By Yankee Lady, 4th January 2024 02:29:34
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I try to check horse sales at least once a week. If I see any interesting OGs I buy them, after verifying they ARE OGs, then make them available to all NIBers for minimum cost. Check out my OG Foundations breeding farm.
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By breakawayfromme, 8th January 2024 10:55:26
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So finally starting my welsh line

wondering how many starters would be best

I have 5 350 foundies currently

How many do you all start with? thanks
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By Vala, 8th January 2024 11:55:04
I’m doing a small project with 8 OG to start (6 mine, 2 a friends) but it all depends on how many generations you want or how much time you want to spend on it. My big project will have six groups starting with 64 horses in each, but I’m insane default smiley ^)
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By breakawayfromme, 8th January 2024 13:37:35
Vala wrote:

I’m doing a small project with 8 OG to start (6 mine, 2 a friends) but it all depends on how many generations you want or how much time you want to spend on it. My big project will have six groups starting with 64 horses in each, but I’m insane default smiley ^)


wow thankyou
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By Vala, 8th January 2024 22:32:17
Also depends if you’re doing the inverted pyramid breeding plan or the other one who’s name escapes me. Feel free to message me if you want to talk about it, we also have a discord.
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By breakawayfromme, 10th January 2024 08:27:31
I have no set plan, ill look into the pyramid thanks
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By Yankee Lady, 10th January 2024 18:31:36
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If you want to get a 6th generation NIBer you will need:

Foundations 64 = 32 breeding pairs
1st generation 32 = 16 breeding pairs
2nd generation 16 = 8 breeding pairs
3rd generation 8 = 4 breeding pairs
4th generation 4 = 2 breeding pairs
5th generation 2 = 1 breeding pair
6th generation 1

For each additional generation you need to double your foundation number.

As to whether to use only your own or accept coverings from others, that is a matter of your trust in the other owners. If even ONE of your non-owned covering stallions goes "disappeared" (owner quits game or loses account while still owning stallion), your entire NIB line is wiped out.
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By Twinjodi, 11th January 2024 14:44:17
Hi everyone,
To new and old, a reminder that we have started a discord for those of the community!
https://discord.gg/FzehwsJdYA

Foundation sales also welcome!
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By Vala, 11th January 2024 15:42:55
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Yankee lady is correct, I’ve actually screenshotted all my original horses bloodlines so if something happens in the future I can still verify the NIB-edness
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By Storms Ransome, 26th January 2024 06:38:54
Vala wrote:

Yankee lady is correct, I’ve actually screenshotted all my original horses bloodlines so if something happens in the future I can still verify the NIB-edness


Unfortunately, sometimes this isn't enough. Or at least for rankings back in the day it wasn't, because people could edit the photo to show that a horse was NIB when it wasn't.

I still won't do outside lines because of the potential danger of disappeared lines. I would be totally heartbroken if the first ever Appy 1* (I was the breeder), became illigitimate because his lines were broken.
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By Storms Ransome, 26th January 2024 06:39:56
Vala wrote:

Also depends if you’re doing the inverted pyramid breeding plan or the other one who’s name escapes me. Feel free to message me if you want to talk about it, we also have a discord.


What other breeding plan exists other than the pyramid one? I'm assuming the pyramid one is the traditional way of doing things. What's the other way?
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By Asfridur, 8th February 2024 10:53:24
Storms Ransome wrote:

What other breeding plan exists other than the pyramid one? I'm assuming the pyramid one is the traditional way of doing things. What's the other way?

I would love to know as well. Always interesting to learn something new NIB wise default smiley :)
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