Exactly,, When you follow everything in the list you get 10 points,,
If you pick some of them, (as you can't buy passes everyday for example... at least not every average player), you have hope of getting 10 points, but mostly it's 8-9 points.

When you don't follow the list and just do your basic rutine, BLUP horses, take care of few hundreds of them, the average points for this are 3-5 points,,

You may be on the game for few hours, take care of your horses, but as long as you did nothing, or not much from list,, you won't be able to get 10 points,,
Not with this "super awesome easy pass every 3 days" system,,

Also many people misjudged the "new update", before they had chance to try it and in the poll they voted positive for it. They blame the Howrse for lying about the system and want new poll,, As they are not able, to gain pass every 3 days that easily, how Howrse said at the beginning,,

on the CZ server for about 14 days now and the max points I have ever gotten was 8. Most days I get less than 6. Now, of course I don't do all the same things on that server as I do this one such as posting in forums, but there were some days I did certain things that I think should have given me more points than what I got. I recorded points for 6 days so far, so if you're curious about my record I could share them with you, but here is from yesterday.

I'll state right off that I only got 6 points for all this. I had 22 total yesterday, and this morning it showed me 28.
-Made item exchange, which someone accepted. Harvested items from workshop, then crafted some more. Sold several items to store. Planted crops in meadows, which involved me buying seeds and manure. Bought 3 horses, then renamed all 3. Worked 7 horses (actions varied for each horses except for basic feed, groom, bed, but extra actions included rides, lessons, training and competitions.). Offered cover from my stallion. Bred my mare to my stallion, aged her up to foal her. Sold off the foal. Wrote in notebook. Congratulated a player. I did kill off those 3 horses I bought so I can try to get the divine.

So, yeah, all that gave me 6 points. And those 25 yr old horses I bought were expensive too.

i know there will be a snowball fight promo type thing comming along, however can someone please explain what you do within this ?
How it works , if you need passes for it ect...
Thanks

In the snowball fight, you catch UFOs and then send more snowballs to other friends, and they catch the UFOs and send them to other people.

on this system. On the server where the pass update has taken place, I've not once gotten 10 points once no matter how diverse my game play actions are from day to day. From my own experience on the CZ server and what I've read on the CZ Events forum topic it's a lot harder to gain points under the new system. I've only filled the pass meter once since I've hit 30 days. So 1 pass per 14 days has been my trend so far.

It's just spending time on the game trying to find UFOs. Some players find they get them every 3 hours or so.

You won't be able to get one pass every 3 days? That means the 10 they claim we can get per month, is simply not true.

And the fact that they expect us to log on every single day - really rubs me the wrong way. There is such a thing called RL

It's fine and all that there are several chores.... (not shores as I posted on the previous page...autocorrect I swear)..... aka things/actions that trigger X amount of points.

It is also fine that the list is rotated randomly every day.
But if they expect us to spend passes every single day, to get those 10 per month (and less if the month does not have 30 days), this so-called loyal player pass feature, is even more nasty than I thought it would be.

An what about extra points? They do not carry over.
Lets say you have 28 points when you log on.
You then run around enough to get 10 points. That means the next day when you log on, you will have 30 points. BUT you will also have lost 8.

I simply don't get it.
If they do not want players to send off 40 pass horses per month, they can just set the cap at a firm 10.

Getting rid of the passhorse feature entirely is simply wrong.

The current loyal passmeter annoys me more than plenty, as it is.
There will be days every now and then when I cannot log on, or only have very limited time.... thus I do not get 10 points per day.

Yes it IS just a game.
But claiming we get 10 points per day with the new system the smaller 3 servers are testing, will do nothing but severely tick off some players.
If they powers that be, want to turn the game 100% into subscription entirely, they might as well just be honest about it, and not call it a loyal pass meter.

We have to post talk about pass horse removal in a spoiler banner since it's not common knowledge.
We don't know a date. All we've been told is that it *won't* be before the end of this year, and we will be warned about it beforehand.

Admin posted this awhile back:
"We are testing the removal of passes from horses sent to heaven on some versions (CZ, IT and BG) where it will be introduced on 8th November.
We are only testing it on these 3 versions first so that we can adjust it if needed. We also want to analyze the results before implementing it everywhere else.
It will arrive on your version as well, but we don’t have any date yet. However, we can tell you that it won't be implemented before the end of the year.
We will keep you posted and give you all the details when the time comes. You will be informed in advance anyway, it won't be implemented without prior announcements.
Don’t hesitate to tell us what you think about it in this survey: Survey"

Here's the link to the post

So probably on the new system it's better to just play your normal game and not worry about earning 10 points a day since it's random what activity earns a point everyday. Now I pretty much earn 10 points everyday for the Loyal Player's Pass just by taking care of my horses, equestrian center and congratulating other players. But if the new system is random, it is not worth the stress of trying to do everything on the list to earn points. And from what I've seen from the list, it would even cost you passes trying to earn a pass point.

No matter what number of pass horses you send to heaven monthly, you're going to be losing out when this update comes. From what I am reading in this thread is that people on the CZ who got 10 points before they started testing the new version of the loyal player pass thing are now only getting 6-8 points, which means in my mind, when this update comes to this server everybody is going to lose passes regardless if they used pass horses or not. The only way I can think of now for someone to not lose out is if they never bothered with passes horses or the loyal player pass thing at all in the past.

I know you posted a while ago that you figured with this new change we would be able to get 121 passes a year from this system. Do you still think that despite what other people have being saying about the new version of the loyal player pass?

No matter what number of pass horses you send to heaven monthly, you're going to be losing out when this update comes. From what I am reading in this thread is that people on the CZ who got 10 points before they started testing the new version of the loyal player pass thing are now only getting 6-8 points, which means in my mind, when this update comes to this server everybody is going to lose passes regardless if they used pass horses or not. The only way I can think of now for someone to not lose out is if they never bothered with passes horses or the loyal player pass thing at all in the past.

I know you posted a while ago that you figured with this new change we would be able to get 121 passes a year from this system. Do you still think that despite what other people have being saying about the new version of the loyal player pass?

When the new system comes in it will be a hurdle that players will have to individually figure out. IF you must do more to get less I won't change but I learned a long time ago that getting upset, angry and and worrying about something that is being tested elsewhere and having Meow's post stating that possible changes may occur once it is released server wide is just not productive in the here and now.

I'd just suggest to read what players expierience on the affected servers, maybe even talk to them in pm. They say, although they got more or less all points from the monthly system, they do Not get all points from the new system, missing out every day is what those said I have spoken to. Rather regardless what they do on game. If Howrse won't fix that we all will lose out with it. We'll be losing 1 pass anyway, the monthly one, and will lose several of the 10 passes. It will be a huge dent in many player's pass budget, no doubt.
In the current system we got with pass horses, every player can earn their passes with a bit of effort and planning. Those pass horse farms even keep players coming back and work their horses. They got a double or triple use, for passes and for aging points, and often for fillers also.

I agree to Asfridur, why not just limiting the pass horse set up to 10 horses/passes per month and done with it ? It would still hurt those that do the 30 maximum passes, yes. But at least it would leave all of us with 10 reliable passes plus the monthly pass. I can't understand why this working system has to be ripped apart and replaced with an obviously not working one. And why giving us an absolutely useless "Divine" in exchange and trophies that are at best morbid ? Aren't there enough players gone by now or turned inactive ?

Does anyone know the apx. date that Christmas packs will come out? Does anyone remember from last year?

But you have to remember there is always 2 sides to the coin.

I usually do not send off more than 10 per month, because I find it's a waste of resources aka passhorses. I'm quite happy with only sending off 10. But that's just me.

How ever since the talk about the change started, it is no secret that I have send off more.

No 2 players play the game the same way, so to some the change will be no big deal.
Some will think it a great change, and for others it will literally be a disaster.

Those that constantly send off 10 + 30 passhorses each month will loose a lot of passes. Even if they only get a total of -- I don't know what the norm is - but let's just say 25. That's 300 per year from passhorses alone.
If they suddenly only get let's say 8 per month. That's only 96 per year - they end up loosing more than 1/3 of their normal "pass income".

The players that cannot log on every day will also loose a lot of passes. The ones that struggle getting the current 300 points, will also be left hanging.
At least with the current system, you can send off 10 passhorses at your own pace.

I for one use the 10 pass horses to renew my VIP on a monthly basis.
I used to renew the VIP perk for half a year at the time paying with RL $, no secret there. But I haven't for a long while. Reason? Some of the changes made to the game made me stop.
When/if we get this change I will be in a world of hurt. But at least I will be ok VIP wise until March next year. After that date all bets are off.

I might be able to collect enough passes to renew a few more months worth. But if I have to let the VIP perks go, I am not at all sure I will be here come December next year. If I am, there sure won't be much happening with my game.

I see only 4 options for me, if the change arrives:
1 - I have to rejoin the ultra competitive GP race, and pick a fight with one or more of the top teams, and in the process drop all my fun lower GP projects -- not happening

2 - i have to speed blup every single horse I breed, and will need to put arms on them all because I will run out of AP's. Thus I will have to buy passes so I can buy enough arms -- not happening

3 - I have to start buying a lot of passes to fund my VIP subscription

4 - I have to try and sell some of my GA horses, to stay afloat for a while - not happening in a million years

So if / when we get this change, I will have to once again give this game some serious thought. Do I really want to keep on playing? Do I really want to start buying passes on a regular basis again? Or should I simply let everything go.

I think it's pretty much given that we will get the change.
They might do some small adjustments, before we get the feature. But I have little hope that it does not happen.

packs containing one or more divine?
If so they are normally released on december 24th