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Yes I realize that fill259 default smiley :)
I was just wondering if it was....
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possible to not have the horse get older.

Let's assume I sold 4 uni fails to safe heaven.... OH wait... blonde person here....
So the horses that are send off have to be 25y old for the critter to gain those rings?

I have no interest in the horse what so ever. BUT if I could have it not get older, I would get a kick out of that.
And that should be doable then. I think.

I'm a rebel you see. Or at least that's what a friend here calls me default smiley ^)
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By Retired breeder, 2nd January 2017 18:52:36
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Asfridur,,

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"Letokruhy získáte pokaždé, když pošlete koně starého 25 let nebo více do nebe. Za každý rok života koně dostanete 1 letokruh."
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"For each horse sent to heaven, that will be older than 25 years, you'll gain tree-rings. For each horse's year, you'll get 1 tree-ring."
25 years old horse = 25 tree-rings

Yes, they must be at least 25 years old or more,,

If this is, what you were asking,, default smiley (h)
Excellent.... Kušni - thank you
Everything just got a hole lot more interesting default smiley (y)
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Aw man! I liked companions, and now they're getting rid of the trophy. default smiley :'( Well, I guess this could potentially make horses with companions cheaper, since trophy collectors wouldn't need them anymore.

I wish they'd just bring back companions. I know there were problems with them, but maybe Howrse could tweak it. Of course, some would probably say that that wouldn't be fair to people who spent a lot of passes to buy horses with companions.

Still, personally, I'd love to have companions back default smiley :p That way the trophy wouldn't be too hard for new players to get.


Agreed. i am a collector. Of howrses, not trophies, so it's good for me.
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Asfridur wrote:

Excellent.... Kušni - thank you
Everything just got a hole lot more interesting


To me it is just a mini game within a bigger game. That horse is ugly and totally useless to my account. Trophies are not at the top of my list.
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I'm sure i'm not the only one who is disappointed the companions trophies will be replaced.

Heavens above we can't upset new players can we...but don't worry about upsetting the long timers who have been the backbone (and income) for the game over the last 8 yrs or so default smiley (li)

The same new players realistically can't get hold of all the divines for trophies (you know those ones we'd never have to chance to get again, just like the one in the next promo!! ) but suprise, surprise they will be staying i'm sure.

Neither can get all the older retired coats so hey better remove those too, it's the same principle really only the pets are actually slightly more obtainable in many cases.
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I feel the same way Spyder. And I'll be the first to admit hearing about it's features etc. made me more than angry. I still do not like the hole idea of it.

How ever if I can decide to just...
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let it sit and not age it. No activation of rings, since there won't be no old horses getting weeded out for some trophy points.... that could tempt me to get it.

I guess it would be my few cents worth of letting howrse know just what I think about the critter. and the overall idea
Sure I could just decide to NOT get it at all. But at least with grabbing it and letting it sit... I would feel like I have accomplished something in my own small way.

How ever silly that idea may sound I think that is what I will do, if howrse moves ahead with it all.
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There's honestly quite a few trophies I wouldn't even bother with if they didn't count towards general ranking. Trophies aren't a huge part, but they're still a part
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There's honestly quite a few trophies I wouldn't even bother with if they didn't count towards general ranking. Trophies aren't a huge part, but they're still a part


I don't care about ranking. i don't care about many parts of this game anymore. Tired of being told to play the game THEIR way. You want me to follow your orders, hire me and pay me.
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I cannot believe they are removing the companion trophies, what next after the pass changes. They are changing far too much of the games history, how are people going to know they even existed? Donkey teams don't make up for all this spoiling new players. I sure darn hope companions don't lose value, I've invested millions on my collection. I'm so frustrated! I'll be in the corner sulking with leftover mince pies, there's less and less reason to want to stay on this game default smiley :(
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I like the companion pets because they are so cute. I like the idea that my horse has a friend to interact with. I was hoping that Howrse would create more of them. Like they brought back the Wandering Horses. default smiley :)
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Don't think this needs to be in a spoiler, but I will put it in one just in case. Better to be safe than sorrydefault smiley ;)

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I don't collect companions for the trophies, I just do it because they are cute so it doesn't affect me that much. I play a really laid back came were I dont care about passes and such, so really only the hardcore players who care about rankings are being deeply affected, which will affect horses income because people won't be buying passes.

I like the new pass changes, but I think it would be best for business to keep it the same, because with the new changes pass buyers will leave and it will be easier for people who don't sit and age to get passes, so there will be less pass buyers.

I am sad to say that this pass change will not help howrse get more money, but will help me with my game.

There are so many pros and cons to this pass change.
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Personally I feel that
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the removal of the companions trophy is a good idea. While I do not support the new trophies being brought in to replace it (nor do I support the pass horse changes), it has always irked me a bit that the companions trophy is so hard to achieve and couldn't possibly be completed by all players no matter how hard they tried.

How many companions are left on the game? I have no clue but I'm sure the number is dwindling down as accounts are deleted and horses are either sent to heaven or safe havened. Not to mention how many players collect them (not that collecting them is a bad thing, power to the collectors) also affects how many players can obtain them.

While yes the divine trophies are equally as difficult to obtain due to the majority being unsellable, there is always a chance they will re-release the divines for those trophies. I highly doubt companions will be re-released because if they were to come out again, what would they do? The actual purpose of companions was removed as the game evolved.

I simply don't feel the need for the companion trophy as, in my mind, it is simply a rank booster that only some players can benefit from.


Hope that made sense without offending anyone. default smiley :)
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By Retired breeder, 2nd January 2017 23:50:09
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Can I be honest here? What saddens me about the removal of the pass horses is the fact this system has been here more or less since day one. I feel that an important part of the game's history is about to be lost forever. default smiley :(
entering in this discussion regarding the removing and/or replacing the C_Trophy.

will this move from admin devalue the C_ that players have already collected?
does admin not realise there are several player who have hoarded the C_.

yes there are loads of C_ disappearing because of player deleting their accounts or creating pass horses.

does this mean that golden apple trophies should be removed too? there are some golden apple coats that are extremely rare--less than 20 copies left on the game.

should i decided to sell of my C_ collection and admin decides to reinstate or reissue the C_ trophy..will i be compensated?

will a sell off of C_ just ensure that the hoarders will just get another opportunity to hoard even more C's.

give me a break, this a false lead. every newbie goes through envy. i'll never get an olympic trophy or badge or whatever it is that some of the long, long term players had. why? because i joined the game just shortly after the olympics ended.

i'll never have a quiz contributor icon. because i never contributed.
i could have, i just did not.
nor will i ever have a icon for having been part of the ultra competitive howrse games. i just wasn't competitive enough.

i was on the game for over 600 days before i got my first divine.

there are loads of things that i do not have on this game because i either joined too late, or just didn't bother going after the icon.

will our wandering horses be deleted from our pages? not every one has all of them. and it certainly does not appear that there will be an opportunity for players to re-collect them.

no the removal of the C_ trophy is unnecessary and just going to cause a lot of anger, confusion and the deletion of accounts.

howrse NEEDS to go back to the drawing board. this is a horrid decision and it is going to rain CAOS.

oh..btw..how loud should i howl because i do not get a pottok in my wild collection? i've had two opportunites to collect that wild. i have missed out on it twice. howrse should remove all the wild horses from the game..I DID NOT GET ONE THAT I WAS MISSING..wah wah wah. howrse is so unfair. default smiley :@default smiley :kdefault smiley (li)

think on it people..and howrse..really, really, REALLY think on it!!!default smiley :@default smiley (h)
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Retired breeder wrote:

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Can I be honest here? What saddens me about the removal of the pass horses is the fact this system has been here more or less since day one. I feel that an important part of the game's history is about to be lost forever. default smiley :(



here here here. too many changes. the new admin is destroying what is working. many pass buying players will begin to drop off the game. tis saddefault smiley :'(default smiley :(
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Just because something is "hard to achieve" does not justify its complete removal from the game. The trophies are milestones that were completed with time, dedication and resources. They would not be achievements worthy of trophies otherwise.

The companions were part of the game mechanics (which are now done behind the scenes by Howrse instead of the player). When the announcement came that they will be removed and that there will be an event to help players use up these pets, the companions you see in sales today are from players who chose NOT to cash them in.

If these players did not make that decision to forego the prizes and benefits from that promo, we would not have this piece of history still within the game. Why would such a thing NOT be valuable to obtain? This is valuable to old timers due to the nostalgia factor, and valuable to newcomers for something different to collect. The companions can be challenging and expensive to find, but that isn't so different from other trophies.. that also require time, resources and dedication to purchase or obtain (retried coats with <100 uses, completed sets of personalized items, etc).

If newer players were not here when this event happened, should these things be removed since "not everyone was here yet"? What value and incentive is there for an older player to keep buying or collecting if anything they purchase or create will lose value or disappear every time new players come along?
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lightcloud435 wrote:

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Just because something is "hard to achieve" does not justify its complete removal from the game. The trophies are milestones that were completed with time, dedication and resources. They would not be achievements worthy of trophies otherwise.

The companions were part of the game mechanics (which are now done behind the scenes by Howrse instead of the player). When the announcement came that they will be removed and that there will be an event to help players use up these pets, the companions you see in sales today are from players who chose NOT to cash them in.

If these players did not make that decision to forego the prizes and benefits from that promo, we would not have this piece of history still within the game. Why would such a thing NOT be valuable to obtain? This is valuable to old timers due to the nostalgia factor, and valuable to newcomers for something different to collect. The companions can be challenging and expensive to find, but that isn't so different from other trophies.. that also require time, resources and dedication to purchase or obtain (retried coats with <100 uses, completed sets of personalized items, etc).

If newer players were not here when this event happened, should these things be removed since "not everyone was here yet"? What value and incentive is there for an older player to keep buying or collecting if anything they purchase or create will lose value or disappear every time new players come along?


Agreed! I never have a GP winner, never collect the 'collection' trophies for a set of anything, hardly have any divines, etc etc etc. One reason i liked the companions was because in real life, many horses DO have "pets" esp goats, cats. Sure would be cool to have a stable dragon . .. you'd need smoke detectors in case of accident, but you'd never have to worry about any intruders bothering the horses . .. .

Always thought the whole 'trophy' deal was silly. i preferred the objectives where you won things when you accomplished them, and you didn't have to do them if you didn't want to, you could skip them and move on to the next. i felt they were far better in teaching the game to players than the silly tutorial thing.

I was trying to get more horses with companions, not for a trophy but because i think they are cool. if I had to 'buy a horse' for an objective in a promo, if i saw one in the sales with a companion, that's the one i would buy if i could afford it. And since those horses are not top level anymore, thanks to GP inflation caused by teams (and I shall NEVER be on a team because I'm not a pass buyer and play the game my way) this is just more of the Ow Way or the Highway attitude I find to be a bit, well, unmutual.
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lightcloud435 wrote:

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Just because something is "hard to achieve" does not justify its complete removal from the game. The trophies are milestones that were completed with time, dedication and resources. They would not be achievements worthy of trophies otherwise.

The companions were part of the game mechanics (which are now done behind the scenes by Howrse instead of the player). When the announcement came that they will be removed and that there will be an event to help players use up these pets, the companions you see in sales today are from players who chose NOT to cash them in.

If these players did not make that decision to forego the prizes and benefits from that promo, we would not have this piece of history still within the game. Why would such a thing NOT be valuable to obtain? This is valuable to old timers due to the nostalgia factor, and valuable to newcomers for something different to collect. The companions can be challenging and expensive to find, but that isn't so different from other trophies.. that also require time, resources and dedication to purchase or obtain (retried coats with <100 uses, completed sets of personalized items, etc).

If newer players were not here when this event happened, should these things be removed since "not everyone was here yet"? What value and incentive is there for an older player to keep buying or collecting if anything they purchase or create will lose value or disappear every time new players come along?

You have misunderstood me a bit.
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I am not a collector. I didn't try for the companions because I knew I would never collect them all. There simply isn't enough companions to go around. Same with DAs. There is no DA trophy though, which makes perfect sense to me. Thus I see the removal of companion trophies as a good thing.

Trophies can be difficult to obtain. That is fine with me as that makes them more of a challenge and more desirable to achieve for some. However I, myself, care not for trophies that are near impossible to achieve. I strongly believe that there is simply not enough companions left on the game for even half of the player-base on this sever to achieve the trophy.

You can not compare them to trophies such as own X amount of RCs with less than 100 uses because new coats (GA and RC) are constantly added. The way I see it, Howrse is not removing it because new players are coming along but because older players are leaving. Thus leading to less companions, and less players (including veteran players) being able to achieve the trophy itself.

Others are free to disagree with me, obviously everyone is entitled to their own opinions/views, and I have lots of respect for those who do collect them. I just want to look at both sides of the coin here.

Those who have spent resources upon resources collecting the companions, and those who have gone out of their way to obtain the trophy will of course be upset. It's understandable. If I were them, I would be upset too. However I'm not them. I don't know the feeling of having that accomplishment taken from me. It doesn't affect me as much as it will affect them. Those who like to reminisce may feel upset too. I can see the reason as to why people would be upset, but I can also rationalize how the removal of this trophy is positive.


I am trying to look on a positive side of things more because of how negative this thread has become on a regular basis lately. Of course I try to back up my positivity with reason and rationality, as well as see things from the other side when making my points.
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I am trying to look on a positive side of things more because of how negative this thread has become on a regular basis lately


Maybe this topic wouldn't be so negative if howrse didn't want to implant changes that tick off a lot of players. If they actually made changes that people want, I bet this topic would have a happier and more positive vibe.
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Maybe this topic wouldn't be so negative if howrse didn't want to implant changes that tick off a lot of players. If they actually made changes that people want, I bet this topic would have a happier and more positive vibe.

I disagree. While I do not like certain changes, I also know that "you can't please everyone". Don't get me wrong, players have every right to be angry. Though I feel people forget that Howrse isn't solely responsible for this negativity. Howrse may have caused it to start but we as players need to take responsibility for perpetuating it (I'm guilty of doing this when news of said change first arrived) and letting it grow to what it has become.

Also even if they made changes that people want, there would still be negativity. Here is why; people have conflicting opinions and ideas. Thus it wouldn't make everyone happy. To a degree, there will always be negativity beside the positivity. It is up to us to decide whether to share our positivity or negativity with the community. I choose positivity, I will send my negativity straight to contact us in order to not spread more here.

I'm not saying people should not voice their emotions and feelings here (particularly the negative ones) but perhaps taking a second to really think about what we post, asking ourselves "what effect will this post have", may prevent the negativity from growing further.
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By Retired breeder, 3rd January 2017 03:00:25
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I feel this topic would also be a tad less negative if people were allowed to state their views without being challenged on them. Arguments start because people try and slate another's view and try to say they are wrong. I feel that the majority of us are guilty of this, and perhaps if people just left them be, there wouldn't be such a huge problem. People dislike a change? Let them voice it and don't question it. People like the change? Let them voice it as well and leave them be. At the end of the day we are all allowed an opinion and no one has the right to say it is wrong.
my eyes just rolled so far back in my head they almost cracked.

Positive or negative are labels used by people to shut down conversations. it isn't negative of me to point out, for example, that putting up more development on the waterfront of SF, on landfill, when the ocean is rising, when we are already overbuilt and this place just can't handle Manhattan styled hirises everywhere (we are built on sand, landfill, and frangible bedrock in an earthquake zone), and i have been dissed by our leaders for it. like when i objected to the Millennial Towers project in the mission years ago. Google it and you will see all of my dire predictions are coming true on that project. And yet, they are still going to put ANOTHER similar development RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

Was I being "negative" for 'holding back jobs and progress?" no, i was correct, and our infrastructure is, as I have been yelling for decades, falling completely apart.

I am considered 'negative' because I bring up the fact our emergency services are so inadequate that we can't handle even a minor emergency let alone a major quake.

Is that negative?

And another thing, i don't much care for passive aggressive behavior, and bragging about how "positive' you are doesn't cut it with me.

Yes we have a right to voice our opinions. We all do.

San Francisco used to be a great place to live and visit. Now, thanks to our "game developers" here, it's a hot mess, overcrowded, underfunded, crime ridden and ugly. Nothing to do unless you can spend huge amounts of cash, no music, no art, nothing left that made SF what it was. Those of us who objected to these changes have been forced out by economic cleansing and dishonesty by those in power.

It's a metaphor. If SF had been like this I never would have come here 40 years ago. i didn't agree to any of the changes made by those in power. The carpet baggers and newbies who flocked in here for tech money don't know what they have destroyed. Those in power want us old timers outta here because they prefer people who don't know any better and can't care about what has been destroyed.

If howrse had been like this when I began i never would have stayed.

All that I ask in both cases is be mindful of what your 'progress' has done to those who have been harmed by it. default smiley (6) And ask yourself if you'd mind it if it were done to you. Golden Rule, anyone?
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Does anyone know when the pass horse system is being replaced? I thought I read somewhere a month ago that it was getting changed on January 4th or something on the international server, but maybe I'm making that up? I've looked back through a couple of pages and didn't see a mention of it, so apologies if it's right under my nose :/
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By Retired breeder, 3rd January 2017 03:12:33
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Does anyone know when the pass horse system is being replaced? I thought I read somewhere a month ago that it was getting changed on January 4th or something on the international server, but maybe I'm making that up? I've looked back through a couple of pages and didn't see a mention of it, so apologies if it's right under my nose :/


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All we know currently is that it is sometime this year. default smiley :)
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