New: Divine Dust!

Divine Dust




As conveyed several times, we have added an additional way to get divine horses that are offered through special marketing offers, if you’re very unlucky. Divine dust are in luck items promotions, and each type of luck item has its own divine dust.

When you open a luck-based item and don’t find the highlighted divine on offer, you get the divine dust instead! Divine dust accumulates within a gauge that you can see directly from each of the luck items’ description pages. When the meter is full, you win the divine!





If you have not filled it before the offer ends, the dust earned disappears and cannot be used for another one (the meter will start empty when a new divine is offered). Additionally, once you have won the divine (via luck or the divine dust) there isn’t anymore dust left to find in the luck item.

Starting today and through this weekend, you can find the Celtic divine Cernunnos hiding in the Golden Fleece; including the Golden Fleece divine dust.



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Our best wishes,

The Howrse Team


cailow
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If it carried over, fine, I'd get it. But exactly HOW many passes is that to fill up the meter? Seen people posting 20-40 dust per opening, and you need how much to fill it? They're estimating on the other thread 40-50 passes, and it all disappears in a day and a half?

What's even the point of pretending you're responding to players frustrated by the rng if you reset it every time it comes up?

(also there's no meter appearing for me, so I only have others' words to go from on this, and it doesn't look promising.)


just my opinion :v
answrs
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Great idea. But I think it should be in the HOPs for Zaldia's tack too. This morning I opened 14 HOPs and got one bit of tack, bringing my collection up to 3 out of the 5 needed. With the HOPs I've already used to get (or fail to get) the individual pieces it works out at a lot of HOPs.
And not all of them were from Xanthos

And Zaldia is a divine so should be included.
rowangreen
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Zaldia is not a Divine.

answrs wrote:

What's even the point of pretending you're responding to players frustrated by the rng if you reset it every time it comes up?


Because players spent as much as EIGHTY passes for Divines such as Qilin, Opal (that was me) and Agate (that again was me), so if the bar is set even at 50 passes you can bet it's a money saver.

I'd like however for the bar to be a TAD lower, especially for Divines such as Cernunnos.
nalu93
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Seconding it being needed on ALL divine promotions. Zaldia's like one of the only useful of the set and I'm only at 2/5 after using up my HOPs, also not exclusively Xanthos-given.

If you're gonna do it, at least actually *do* it on a divine promotion when it's happening! Especially when you say it's for HOP releases too! :/
answrs
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answrs wrote:

If you're gonna do it, at least actually *do* it on a divine promotion when it's happening! Especially when you say it's for HOP releases too! :/


But Zaldia is NOT a Divine, and you're not looking for a Divine but for its tack.
Technically (and we don't like it but we have to give it to them), they're not wrong.
nalu93
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OK, maybe technically Zaldia is not a divine... but it would still be fair to have them qualify for divine dust. Re-posting what I just posted in another thread:

Maybe you are right, but if so it's all down to one word. They are divines in every single way except being 'legendary' rather than 'divine'. Here's the description:

'The Legendary horses are immortal, cannot be sold or ranked. They cannot breed, be customized, take part in the Grand Prix, be aged manually. They do not count towards Equestrian Centre boarder prestige. They can take part in competitions open to all horses once a day and in special horse competitions as long as their energy allows.'

Isn't that the same as divine horses?

They also give perks like divine horses: Zaldia gives passes (was diamonds...) and Amira gives different prizes, including a chronos timer.

And yes, they start as ordinary horses... but then so can Croesus.

They are also probably harder to get than many divines: you have to win them 5 times in the HOPs, not just once...
rowangreen
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The distinction between "legendary" and "divine" has never made any sense to me except to cherrypick rules, so yes I guess it's understandable they'd only want to implement it to have the absolute minimum effect to their revenue. >>
answrs
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RowanGreen wrote:

Isn't that the same as divine horses?


The fact that they have the same functionality doesn't mean they aren't different.
Like Chimeras and Wild horses.

Zaldia is a special horse, yes, category: Legendary, not Divine.
They're not horses with "god" (term is used LOOSELY) or "divinity" status, but horses who rose from normality to a Legend.
It's like comparing a Hero to a Greek God. Yes, we all love poor Achilles, but he's NOT on the same plane as Poseidon.
I hope it makes sense?

Also, you're looking for BM items, technically (Legendary tack), not the Legendary itself default smiley :)
nalu93
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answrs wrote:

The distinction between "legendary" and "divine" has never made any sense to me except to cherrypick rules, so yes I guess it's understandable they'd only want to implement it to have the absolute minimum effect to their revenue. >>


It's not a "cherry picking rule", it's because they're legendary in the story?
The big event that they had the chapters of the story revealed bit by bit by trying to have us save the world?
The point is that with the magic tack infused with the energy of the heroes your horses will too become heroes.
The STORY was set just like that back in the day. default smiley :)
nalu93
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I don't want to have a big argument with you... I agree that (technically...) that is correct and probably Howrse's reasoning. But I think it's unfair.

Personally I think any special horse which is in the special offers should qualify for divine dust. I see what you are saying, but none of them are actually gods, and in the game they work in the same ways. In the game they are on the same plane.
rowangreen
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I don't know why you're defending it so adamantly, since lore has never been a big part of howrse in the decade I've played it. Yes there was an event. No, it does not change that the distinction between the two IN PRACTICE is literally just the name they're given.

And as already said, Croeseus has also been a user's horse that has been turned into a special one, and the method is no more out there than the tack.
answrs
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RowanGreen wrote:

I don't want to have a big argument with you... I agree that (technically...) that is correct and probably Howrse's reasoning. But I think it's unfair.


answrs wrote:

I don't know why you're defending it so adamantly, since lore has never been a big part of howrse in the decade I've played it. Yes there was an event. No, it does not change that the distinction between the two IN PRACTICE is literally just the name they're given.


I would never want to start an argument, I'm sorry if that's how it sounded.
I'm just giving them that technically that's how it works.
I'm not saying you aren't wrong on your idea that every special should work like that, I'd like that idea, I'm just saying that "technically" they're not wrong. default smiley :)
nalu93
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Agreed

PS: Achile's Heel is a BMI, same as other things named after Gods. Howrse doesn't seem to be making the distinction there! LOL.
rowangreen
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RowanGreen wrote:

PS: Achile's Heel is a BMI, same as other things named after Gods. Howrse doesn't seem to be making the distinction there! LOL.


It was just me making a poor example, because I'm terrible like that. default smiley :p
nalu93
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[quote][b]I'm not saying you aren't wrong[/b] on your idea that every special should work like that, I'd like that idea, [b]I'm just saying that "technically" they're not wrong.[/b][/quote]Which is literally what I said when I stated the only reason the distinction exists between the two specials is so they can cherry pick, but you argue (as in "dispute", not "angry fighting") that is wrong. So I still don't see your train of thought.
answrs
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(eurgh, formatting issues)
answrs
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answrs wrote:

So I still don't see your train of thought.


My train of thought is that the distinction had a meaning, which was following the story (their original story), and that their functioning is different from a normal Divines (Croesus is not a normal horse transformed, but it's simply a horse replaced with a Divine horse), as in your horse becomes the Legendary and its skills double and all that.
So they are different.
Would we like to see them all have dust? Yes, at least I know I do, I'd love a collection of Altairs and Bucephalos since we only could get 1 back in the day!
Are they wrong in saying that they don't benefit from dust, based on definition? No, they're not.

Sorry it doesn't make much sense, I'm aware my English could be stronger. default smiley :)
nalu93
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Nalu93 wrote:

Sorry it doesn't make much sense, I'm aware my English could be stronger


your English is fine and much better than most English speakers could manage in another default smiley :)
minkthepink
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I once did 200 passes (old ones), and still didnt get the divine. So i like the update, and voted for it as an ambassador. Of course its changes i would like to see in it, but even if you have to use 50 passes to collect enough dust, its still a great feature. And its a lot better than nothing at all.
underneath
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Nalu, your example was good, it made your point. It also illustrated that Howrse blur the lines too!
rowangreen
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answrs wrote:

also there's no meter appearing for me, so I only have others' words to go from on this, and it doesn't look promising.)


The meter is under the picture of the Divine available..

I found the Divine in three tries..one fleece in stock and 400 passes
The first two gave me 51 and 32 Divine dust respectively . Maybe that will help to get a rough idea of how much you can get at a time
wildfire7979
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While I agree it would be nice to have Divine Dust for the Legendary tack, I can see how it wouldn't work unless everyone only needed one piece. Since there are 5 pieces, it would have to follow different rules than those set for how the Dust currently works.
rogin
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Rogin, can you get divine dust for more than one copy of a divine at the moment? If not I guess that's a good point! It would really need to reset after every bit of tack. But even being able to get it just for one piece with dust would be something. And it could work the same as for other divines on the weeks where they are offering just one piece.
rowangreen
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RowanGreen wrote:

Rogin, can you get divine dust for more than one copy of a divine at the moment? If not I guess that's a good point! It would really need to reset after every bit of tack. But even being able to get it just for one piece with dust would be something. And it could work the same as for other divines on the weeks where they are offering just one piece.


if you watch the information clip in the main post, it explains that once you have collected and used dust to gain the divine, you can't do so again for the same promotion.
raf's mum
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RowanGreen wrote:

Rogin, can you get divine dust for more than one copy of a divine at the moment? If not I guess that's a good point! It would really need to reset after every bit of tack. But even being able to get it just for one piece with dust would be something. And it could work the same as for other divines on the weeks where they are offering just one piece.


No once you win the Divine, either from collecting enough dust or by finding it you cannot gain more dust to try for a second Divine. You can still go on to try for another Divine but you wont get dust anymore.
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