Important: Springtime Rules Recap



Spring Cleaning time!





Hello Everyone,

We noticed that on several versions, some forms of cheating have been tolerated. Though sometimes historically, other times due to information errors, or simply because it’s easier to let things pass than to tackle a difficult situation.

However, in the long run, everyone is penalized by this situation. It's unfair, unpractical and no one really knows where the boundaries are.

So, we have decided to do a global recap for all the versions to set things straight and make sure that the rules are consistent across all the versions of Howrse.

We are also planning to do a general cleanup on all the versions, thus it's an occasion to give everyone fair warning about what isn’t allowed before we start that as shown via the list below.


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Selling passes to another player

Buying passes from another player

Farming passes via numerous accounts (A.k.a. multiple-accounting). Using the free pass features to collect passes on through extra accounts to transfer them to your main later. (I.E. the passes from sending dead horses to Heaven)

Paying another player with passes or game items to play/do chores in your stead

Bulk sales of old horses against passes (For example: Selling 10 horses for a single pass or any other similar aspect). The allowances planned in the game are calculated to preserve game balance, they are not transferable to another player.

Having more than one account on the same version


Having a common pivot account for teams, its multiple-accounting.

A fake account is used to store and transfer good, currencies and horses among members within a team bypassing game re-sale rules.

Connecting to another player's account outside of the co-management feature

Using a script on your account, regardless of who activated said script.

Yes, you are responsible for choosing co-managers you can trust and who share your ethics

Selling an account to another player either for game currency or actual currency

Selling Black market items

There’s a limit as the number of exchanges and gifts you can do, and it’s for a very excellent reason. This includes selling them for passes or real currencies, both transactions are forbidden.


As for tabbing, add-ons and gaming mouses (link clump, etc...), they are not forbidden per se, but should you ever decide to use these methods, do be careful and stay within reason. If your account seems to be overdoing it and we consider that you are taking an unfair advantage over your peers, due to an automation, it will be equal to scripting.

Therefore, starting the 10th of April, 2018, we will proceed with a spring cleaning on all the versions.

Best Regards,

The Howrse Team
 
cailow
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So, if we open up different tabs for breeding our unicorns and not wasting time on getting them covered, is that not allowed anymore?
silverfern
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Thanks for answering ZOwey! I was just curious default smiley :)
moon unicorn345
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Irish Dream wrote:

Wait so if someone helps me out with my account every so often when i am out of town, and I decide to send them gifts every now and then because they are my friend, it would be considered trafficking? How will the system know that I am not "paying" them to help out my account when I am out of town? Since I entrust my comanagement feature to friends, not strangers, so that means I cant send gifts to that person anymore?


Sending gifts to someone isn't against the rules. Paying someone to tend your account IS against the rules. If your gifts are occasional they should be alright. If you are gifting the same person (or buying a junk horse for a pass from that person) repeatedly, that's different. Some of these situations are complicated. We try to take everything into consideration.

If we think you're paying someone, we will look at all of the transactions between the two of you.

-ZOwey
zowey
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Opening multiple tabs is not allowed? I frequently use several tabs at a time...it's the best way to compare horses when deciding which to purchase! Also, I like to keep an open tab for horse sales, in case I want to refresh mine to the top or want to check prices, etc...Is this really considered breaking a rule?
blackcat41
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Can someone tell me what the 'excellent reason' theres a limit on the number of exchanges people get please? Is there some sort of theory that exchanges make the game easier? So we only get so many and then have to buy passes to get more items? Some of these rules are driving people away from the game and away from buying passes and its not down to any of the players.
bexprincess56
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I am a bit worried about the overdoing part in tabbing etc. Some of it is dependant on your interner speed and computing power and there are probably a bunch of players who have invested in high speeds and a better comouter for multiple reasons. What exactly would be concidered overdoing? Would working 1000 horses a day via tabbing be ok even though the speed which my computer and internet function are pretty darn fast and therefore i do have a slight advantage over some people?
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sɴᴏᴡғʟᴀᴋᴇ wrote:

Alright, thanks for responding Zowey -- I just have one last question.
Considering my brother is younger than me and doesn't have his own money, am I allowed to use my own paypal to buy him passes through his own account? Obviously I wouldn't be allowed to have any of these passes, as it's his account.


Purchase means isn't anything that we log any information from. Thus, you're welcome to pay for passes for you and your brother's accounts with the same Paypal account.
cailow
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sɴᴏᴡғʟᴀᴋᴇ wrote:

Is there a specific way to detect if people are siblings? When my brother first signed up I thought we'd get done in for "multi-accounting" due to having the same IP address. default smiley xd


I was (out of the blue-after several years) banned for 30 days , and both my husband and sister lost their accounts, because it was decided I had multiple accounts....instead of a few people sharing the same IP address. A few others I know of have had the same problem.
dancing jade dragon
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The customer service for this game is shocking to be honest, I'm no longer funding this game as I'll probably get banned for using a 'Razor chroma gaming mouse' so no I'm not going to stop using my gaming mouse as it was very expensive and was a gift. I rarely play this game now anyways. It's just gone downhill every year now.
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So, my husband started a howrse game many years ago and only plays very rarely - usually to help me with my game when I need a friend to give me something for an event or something similar. It's just not his kind of game, but I have co-management on his account so I can help keep his game and his horses going. Also, my sister pokes around in the game and has the same goals. Every once in a while she plays, but I have co-management to keep the game going.

So now, if they have a horse that goes to heaven and they get a pass and 6 months down the road I have a horse they want and I need/want a pass, they aren't able to buy the horse for the pass because that is going to be multi-accounting?

Am I not allowed to interact with my husband in the game at all?

What about teams whose members contribute and they have reward programs within them like sharing out passes from sales so that everyone can benefit instead of just one person, but we all do our own work and bluping?

What's the point of the teams/friends/gifting system if we are going to be so heavy-handedly punished for it?
kilhullen
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silverfern wrote:

So, if we open up different tabs for breeding our unicorns and not wasting time on getting them covered, is that not allowed anymore?


You can open multiple tabs in the game. The question is how you are opening them? Are you using a tool that does it faster than a human could click to do it? Because if you are, then you are using a tool that gives you an advantage over someone that does not use that tool.

Also, remember that 'just opening a tab' is actually an interaction with our server. Opening a horse profile starts a horse day. If you are doing actions faster than a human being could physically do them, then you run the risk of being sanctioned.

-ZOwey
zowey
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What I'm hearing is...even though I've been a player for 10 years and have spent hundreds of dollars on my account/passes, I could still be punished because my sibling likes to use my computer to check their horses when they come around because they don't have a computer at home, or I help out friends who wanna buy passes and they decide later on they don't want their account anymore and want to give their passes back to me rather than let them go to waste.
Wow. That's fair.
I understand the reasoning behind it, but it sounds a little extreme to me. :/
suki r.
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Cookie12 wrote:

The customer service for this game is shocking to be honest, I'm no longer funding this game as I'll probably get banned for using a 'Razor chroma gaming mouse' so no I'm not going to stop using my gaming mouse as it was very expensive and was a gift. I rarely play this game now anyways. It's just gone downhill every year now.


I also use a Razer mouse. There is nothing wrong with using the mouse, it's the automation features and macros that cannot be used.

-ZOwey
zowey
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As for tabbing, add-ons and gaming mouses (link clump, etc...), they are not forbidden per se, but should you ever decide to use these methods, do be careful and stay within reason. If your account seems to be overdoing it and we consider that you are taking an unfair advantage over your peers, due to an automation, it will be equal to scripting.

wha?? whats this about gaming mouses? I am confused default smiley xd
horselover19900
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kilhullen wrote:

What's the point of the teams/friends/gifting system if we are going to be so heavy-handedly punished for it?


This is the reason why my sister doesn't play at all on here. I've worked so hard to build up what I have, she doesn't want to risk that she might buy a horse from me or I might send her an item and it end up with us both hit hard.
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Why is tabbing problematic? I mean, everyone uses them to view several horses you're planning to buy, to get all you unis covered in the time frame , to stroke Xantos... Which part of that is cheating? Its about time management really so where does the issue lie?
mynn
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wildfire7979 wrote:

This message has been censored since it does not follow the forum rules.


I agree. No matter how much they claim to have "amazing multi-account detection systems" I always see families getting sanctioned and people with real multi accounts get no punishment at all, because they can use methods to get around the "detection system".
ali64
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Suki R. wrote:

What I'm hearing is...even though I've been a player for 10 years and have spent hundreds of dollars on my account/passes, I could still be punished because my sibling likes to use my computer to check their horses when they come around because they don't have a computer at home, or I help out friends who wanna buy passes and they decide later on they don't want their account anymore and want to give their passes back to me rather than let them go to waste.
Wow. That's fair.
I understand the reasoning behind it, but it sounds a little extreme to me. :/



Allowing your sibling to use your computer is fine. As long as they stay out of your account and you stay out of theirs, you should be fine. There are many players that play out of the same IP.

There's nothing to keep someone from giving you a really good deal on a horse. A player who is quitting might sell all of their horses and spend all of their passes and that's fine.

But if you are circumventing our rules and the mechanisms that we have in place to accomplish trades and deals, then you're not following our rules.

-ZOwey
zowey
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Mynn wrote:

Why is tabbing problematic? I mean, everyone uses them to view several horses you're planning to buy, to get all you unis covered in the time frame , to stroke Xantos... Which part of that is cheating? Its about time management really so where does the issue lie?


I think it's the difference between opening, say, 5 tabs by hand, or like 200 tabs in one go with LinkClump (a browser add-on that lets you open tabs).
ali64
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Ali64 wrote:

I think it's the difference between opening, say, 5 tabs by hand, or like 200 tabs in one go with LinkClump (a browser add-on that lets you open tabs).
This is exactly the issue.
zowey
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okay, im confused. When i look after horses from a specific breeding farm i open them all up in separate tabs, the same with buying horses to compare which is better. I right click with my mouse . Can I still do this legally?

It was mentioned that accounts are automatically deleted after 180 days but I still have friends who's accounts exist and they haven't logged on for ages, some of them over 1000 days. How does that work?
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A quick reminder that we don't allow specifics about sanctions to be discussed on the forums. If you have questions about a specific sanction and how it relates to this announcement, please use Contact Us and we can discuss it in detail with you.

As for players saying that multi-account bans are not accurate, all of our sanctions are reviewed by human beings, none are automatic. We look for multiple indicators and will never sanction for a single indicator.

If you were banned, we saw something on your account that should not have been and not just once. We usually look for repeated activity.

-ZOwey
zowey
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I think its very wrong and unfair that people have spent literally hundreds and thousands of Pounds/Dollars/Euros on this game Over anything up to 10 or 11 years, Built up a collection of items, horses, GA coats or RC's, passes and equus and You cant do what you wish with it because someone else said so. I dont see what the big deal is in trading BM items, or trading passes when you have paid cash from your own pocket that you have worked hard for and decided to treat yourself. Why put money into something and then be told, sorry you cant spend it on that, or Sorry, thats against the rules because you are only allowed so many of this and that. That is the reason games add real money extras and bonuses, to help you progress in the game and give you that little edge over other people so they in return, get some money out of it to keep them going. Howrse seems to want you to buy for example: 10 passes, spend them on over priced items and then have nothing left after training one horse. Thats not how the world works. I agree with not selling and trading for real life money and currency. But I do not think it should be banned to trade in game currency. It is unfair.
bexprincess56
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Me and my 2 younger sister all use the same laptop to play what does that mean
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