[Updated] Black Pearl Clarification

The Black Pearl

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We'd like to clarify a few things concerning the proposals for the Creative Space. We've had the time to see how things went and made some changes along with some additional advice.

For the Horses, Pegasus, Unicorns, Donkeys, and Ponies.


Using shadows in your creations:


We are probably going to add them ourselves in the future to have something that has the right perspective on the backgrounds, and that has a uniform texture across the coats.

You can use shadowing, but we ask that you keep them very light so that the images will fit with most Helios Ray backgrounds.

Cut out your edges more.


When we place the coats on a dark background in a lot of cases, there are stray light colored pixels all around the drawing. This makes it impossible to use on a dark background.
Tip Please take the time to take a look at your coat on a white and on a black background, in order to get rid of any leftover smudges or pixels. Also, look a little further away on just the outline. Often the coats have a smudge around the corners or along the border of the image.

Use the smudge or blur tool sparingly.


It's a pity to see a coat that has been worked on then filtered with a blur filter, and it comes out all smudgy. It's also a pity to see a coat with smudge marks on one side and not the other.

Be careful when playing around with reformatting an image.


Sometimes we get perfectly nice drawings of Sausage horses because the file has been altered, and the horse has been squashed or pulled in another direction.
This might be a great way of transforming an Irish setter into a Teckel, but it isn't very pretty on horses. Also, avoid making your resolution too low and giving the picture a pixel art look

Backgrounds


Using brushes is allowed.


They can be used as well, but we'd like to also remind you of the Black Pearl page information as seen in the quote below.

“Excess airbrushing is not allowed”. It is allowed but not too much!"

We have received tons of entries like this and have been very cool about it up until now. However, seeing the same tree used 4 times in different backgrounds is starting to get a little old.

From here on out, we'll start to be a bit more strict about this type of thing. This is due to the fact that it's unfair and the aim of the Creative Space is to work things with your own hands, not make photo manipulations. The same thing goes for photos or bits of photos.

Painting, blurring or smudging landscape pictures.


Moving forward, we'll simply remove the right to propose any creations to the Creation space forever for those who do try to do this.

Check the perspectives.


When you make a background, please consider that there has to be something for the horse to put his feet on. It's quite strange the have a picture with a nice pond in the background and the horse is floating in the middle of it in thin air.

The same goes for outer space and clouds etc. Just try and make the backgrounds usable for everyone, not just the Pegasus. Also, make sure that the horses won't look like giants in the middle of a forest when you decide to draw trees or other items.

Rules


Plagiarism is forbidden!
Respect the author's rights: we do not steal images off of the Internet; we do not trace photos; we do not use the basis of someone else if they have not given their authorization, preferably publicly.

What is plagiarism? Plagiarism is taking someone else's work and passing them off as your own.

We can take inspiration from a style, a movement, a mane or a coat without copy-pasting it. It’s the same idea for literature, graphic arts, video games or cinema - there is often inspiration taken from another creation. Inspiration is imbued with another creation in order to interpret it and create something new! Copying is recreating identically. Copying is not having a style or a vision of your own. Try to have the imagination and bring your unique personality to your creations.

Please also note that any cheating can get you excluded from proposing any artwork to the Creative Space forever and/or be followed by sanctions.

Otherwise, all the usual rules still apply.

Before posting:


It is forbidden to mock or ridicule creations/creators
Don't post too many steps regarding your work to avoid flooding of the topic.
IT IS FORBIDDEN TO ASK FOR VOTES!

You are welcome to promote your creations or creations you voted for using #HowrseBP on social media or promote your creations on your profile page.

This topic can be used to help each other understand the Black Pearl rules with respect to your creative content.

Players who do not follow the rules are exposed to sanctions.

Regards
The Howrse team
 
cailow
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After several failed submissions, I figure it's best to post my work here to see if I can get any suggestions. (Unfortunately I missed the deadline this month, so none of these are up for voting)

There are 6 Backgrounds in 3 groups. These images are huge, so I suggest opening them in another tab if possible. Also, the names are not final (just the most descriptive)

Thanks in advance for the feedback!

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Purple Nebulae


Blue Nebulae


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Sunrise Pier


Midnight Pier


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Orange Planet


Multi-Color Planets
athenaminerva
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It is a good game
shawry
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AthenaMinerva wrote:

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Orange Planet


Multi-Color Planets


I'm sorry that your creations haven't been voted through yet - I think they're all beautiful so give it time and I'm 100% sure they'll be picked at some point default smiley :) Don't forget, there are so many submitted each month that yours cannot be guaranteed to be picked every time but I know people will love them default smiley :d

Does anyone know what program I can use to create and submit a coat please? I'd like to give it a try! default smiley ^)
weasleysimpala
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This seems cool,I'd like to give this a try default smiley :d
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Pardon me for asking, but is there a way to report coats already added to the game? This is "Cherry Plum"..
autumn ridge 2
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Autumn Ridge 2 wrote:





Pardon me for asking, but is there a way to report coats already added to the game? This is "Cherry Plum"..


Do you know the origin of the image? because the coat is not traced, you can see with an overlay. Artists are allowed to use photos 'for inspiration', as long as the image owner consents...
gaff
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gaff wrote:

Artists are allowed to use photos 'for inspiration', as long as the image owner consents...


Yeah I think it is about who owns the image and since Howrse probably can't contact the image owner perhaps they just pull all that are blatant copies. I definitely think there is a difference between "Inspiration" and literally copying poses and colours right down to the last dapple. Like if you like a particular pose, make the horse chestnut or palomino instead of bay.

Also, a lot of the coats which have been pulled seemed to have been traced/coloured exactly from photos which have a copyright symbol on it (which is important since that's no longer inspiration, you are copying a copyrighted image). Or are taken right from art on D/A or from movies etc.

I really wish Howrse would pull these before voting so coat buyers aren't disappointed.
emmakate66
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autumn ridge 2
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I think if the image was traced, only the owner of the photo can get it removed. I remember reporting someone's (you know who) a while ago and howrse said they can only remove it from the game if the owner of the reference photo gets in contact... Which is they're foreign and don't play the game, can be difficult.
starynight
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on the french version, we cannot trace a horse, we can trace parts of it but we can't recognise the horse used
we have to change at least front legs position, head/neck position or anything that makes a difference between the line and the picture default smiley :-x
even if it's copyright free or "the owner of the picture is ok" they don't want to have any issues with copyright ^^'
AND, it's in the rules of the Black pearl :
The artwork should have no copyright issues:

→ Creations based on a photograph or which are a photograph are not allowed ←
The drawing must not be fan art (fan art is a creation that takes inspiration from a movie, cartoon or manga representing or referring to a character created by another person)
You cannot use a line drawing without the consent of its creator
You may not recreate already existing illustrations or illustrations created by other players
You may not recreate illustrations from the game


so yes, you can contact the support, link the picture and the coat, the name of the coat and the player who created it
i use the "send feedback" option and give a little explanation why it's "abusive"
they'll decide if they keep it or not default smiley :)

hope you're not dissapointed by this because i know some ppl use traced lines for CS :/
if a coat don't pass trought/is removed, that can be the reason why ^^'

we (some french players) try our best to report coats who are against the rules but there is so many horses' pictures and "fine coats but traced" that we can't see and report them all ^^

hope i was able clarify the situation, have a good day default smiley ^)
palomino 14
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There is nothing wrong using the same pose or colours your ref has. As far you don't trace it is valid work... and more importantly, people who are able to change the pose and colours (use several photo references, change coat, pose, shading m.m) are EXPERIENCED artists. Expecting someone who is still learning to do the same is like expecting a 3 year old horse to have several Grand Prix medals in several disciplines. It just doesn't work that way. As far it is not directly traced (or break some other rules on the server you are sending your work from), everyone is allowed to draw the way that pleases
them.


Unless you intend to send it from a server that doesn't allow reference-photos being used at all.

And the rules are not that easy to understand. Let me say this... "you are not allowed to use a line." If we went with the literal meaning, everyone here would be guilty of that. I use thousands of lines when I paint default smiley xd I think there is a rule saying "you are not allowed to use a brush". It refers to a brush that "paints" the entire horse for you (a brush that acts like a stamp), but since it is not explained, both digital and traditional artists are confused by this.


When it comes to reporting coats that are against the rules, if it gets taken down or not depends on the server they were sent from (I think... CS rules varies from one server to another with is annoying ><). If the coat violates copyright then the photo will probably get taken down. Hopefully. If you claim your own art has been stolen,you need to have proof that it is indeed yours.

As for the rules:
Creations based on a photograph or which are a photograph are not allowed ←
(This has been here forever, but all artists use references to create art, some closer than others. Not to mention its hard to understand what they mean with that, all I can do here is assume what they mean...)

The drawing must not be fan art (fan art is a creation that takes inspiration from a movie,
cartoon or manga representing or referring to a character created by another person)
(Some coats were inspired by movies/manga/mm. But as far you cant recognize source material it will be hard to prove, not to mention accidental similarities...for example, using a black cape and mask does not mean it was inspired by Batman movies.)


You cannot use a line drawing without the consent of its creator
(A lot of coats that we have been used by someone else's lineart and stock photos. Not all lineart made for free use are made with photo-owners permission.I know one stock provider that is against making free-to-use Lineart from her stock. They are fine with it as far the lineart is for personal use only, but not fine with the idea of being shared with others)


You may not recreate already existing illustrations or illustrations created by other players
(kind of funny, since sometimes people use the same lineart/reference photo to make the coat.So it's kind of re-creating something with the same pose, just different people.)

You may not recreate illustrations from the game
(once again,same lineart/photo reference, and you may be breaking this rule).
shishi no seirei
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i poorly expres myself, i'll do it again, sorry

tracing = litteraly tracing from the picture or redrawn yourself without change in the horse position
that's not allowed for the CS but it's fine for training default smiley :)

rules are :
traced without change + same coat color : not allowed
traced without change + different coat color : not allowed (but more difficult to fond out)
traced with changes + same coat color : allowed (if enough changes)
traced with changes + different coat color : the best, allowed
obviously, if you use a personal/friend picture (not on the web) we can't report it for lack of evidence

your creation have to follow all servers' rules because they're submitted to every servers and people will report coats according to their servers' rules, not only yours :x
if i see a traced picture, i report it with the picture and they'll not let it passes ... they don't care from which server it comes from and if creators on this server know the rules or not :/

if you can't draw your line, ask someone to draw one for you (we do that on our server, some good creators do free line or commision fo free) or try different things by your own and improve your drawing skills default smiley :)
or can search online for free (in rules) linearts default smiley ;)
i know beginners can't draw as well as an experienced ones ... i'm not dumb ahem but same rules for everyones, we warn every beginners who come with a traced/not free linearts that's not allowed and they can still train themself on it but don't post it to CS

i don't try to be rude or anything, i just want to inform you that because you don't see/understand the rules the same way we do doesn't mean that your coat is ok with CS

anyways do as you want after all that's not my creations but maybe this will prevent your creations from passing the votes or being removed after several days/months default smiley :(
and that's sad for everyone default smiley :s

ps : Cherry Plum is based on a copyright picture
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that closes the subject for this one at least default smiley ;)

i don't want to start a war here, please don't feel threatened by my post, i personally don't care and will not do a witch hunt D:
i'll not post anymore about this, end of the topic for me default smiley :)
palomino 14
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Nah if the coat is referenced on a copy right photo, then yeah it's defo not allowed.
starynight
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Thanks Palomino 14 and Shishi no Seirei for the clarifications. Its really helpful and hopefully artists can avoid those issues in future.

The one retired coat that was pulled this month was also based on the same stallion as Cherry Plum. Clearly a very inspirational stallion. But the photo is definitely copyrighted.


emmakate66
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It looks like one of my landscapes has gone through! Only been trying for over 18 months...

It has a tick and a little world and 0/0 uses. I've been refunded the Black Pearl for my other entries, but not this one. Not received the payment for it yet though.

It's not the Baba Yaga one (which I would say was my best). Not one I've posted here. It's a bit orange...
rowangreen
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Congratulations RowenGreen! That's great to hear.
emmakate66
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RowanGreen wrote:

It looks like one of my landscapes has gone through! Only been trying for over 18 months...

It has a tick and a little world and 0/0 uses. I've been refunded the Black Pearl for my other entries, but not this one. Not received the payment for it yet though.

It's not the Baba Yaga one (which I would say was my best). Not one I've posted here. It's a bit orange...


Hey that's fab news!
starynight
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Can anyone give any insight as to why a creation I have been submitting for years was this time marked as not meeting the criteria for the Golden Apple? I just opened it up in PS and zoomed in really close, as well as putting it on both a white and a black background, and can find nothing wrong that would disqualify it. No stray pixels, it isn't touching the edges of the template, it certainly isn't inappropriate, and it is suitable for the category I submit it to. Are there any other reasons it could get that notification? It is definitely submitted as png. I don't think I am allowed to post it here, as it is a finished coat.
bloodredarabian
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If it would need to be altered to be able to go through, then you'd have to do some more work, which makes it not finished. So I reckon you can post it!
rowangreen
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About the photo / trace / copyright issue; some of my coats got pulled a while back, all weren't traced, and the owner of the photos didn't report me cause I had permission to use their pics as reference.

The coat you show + the ref is definitely in the same category as my pulled coats so it's against the howrse rules. Permission of the owner of the photo or not.
They won't pull it as long as it's not reported but chances are someone will report it in a year (or two) and the coat will disappear from the game then (+ a creation space ban for the artist).
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I'm getting closer to having access to the black pearl and I am very excited! I'm currently preparing a sweet themed pony coat of a little pony sat in chocolate and covered in candy. Very excited to complete this and be able to enter it default smiley ^)
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Hey guys, Im new. After 5 years I decided to start drawing again.
The line art is from deviantart. Its just for practise.

inge-009
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This is my first time trying to submit something and it's not going well default smiley :'( I'm trying to submit a helios ray but it keeps telling me that it doesn't use the "compulsory format" but I still have no idea what i'm doing wrong.

Also I know I don't have enough seniority to submit, I have another account on the US version and that's where i'm submitting it.
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For a ray it needs to be a jpg and on the correct template. On the template your picture must not overlap the border at all. Personally I copied the border onto a new layer, and put that layer on top of my picture to ensure there's no overlap.
rowangreen
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I did make it jpg but I didn't try that overlapping thing, thanks! Oh also what size is the template supposed to be?
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