[Updated] Black Pearl Clarification

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We'd like to clarify a few things concerning the proposals for the Creative Space. We've had the time to see how things went and made some changes along with some additional advice.

For the Horses, Pegasus, Unicorns, Donkeys, and Ponies.


Using shadows in your creations:


We are probably going to add them ourselves in the future to have something that has the right perspective on the backgrounds, and that has a uniform texture across the coats.

You can use shadowing, but we ask that you keep them very light so that the images will fit with most Helios Ray backgrounds.

Cut out your edges more.


When we place the coats on a dark background in a lot of cases, there are stray light colored pixels all around the drawing. This makes it impossible to use on a dark background.
Tip Please take the time to take a look at your coat on a white and on a black background, in order to get rid of any leftover smudges or pixels. Also, look a little further away on just the outline. Often the coats have a smudge around the corners or along the border of the image.

Use the smudge or blur tool sparingly.


It's a pity to see a coat that has been worked on then filtered with a blur filter, and it comes out all smudgy. It's also a pity to see a coat with smudge marks on one side and not the other.

Be careful when playing around with reformatting an image.


Sometimes we get perfectly nice drawings of Sausage horses because the file has been altered, and the horse has been squashed or pulled in another direction.
This might be a great way of transforming an Irish setter into a Teckel, but it isn't very pretty on horses. Also, avoid making your resolution too low and giving the picture a pixel art look

Backgrounds


Using brushes is allowed.


They can be used as well, but we'd like to also remind you of the Black Pearl page information as seen in the quote below.

“Excess airbrushing is not allowed”. It is allowed but not too much!"

We have received tons of entries like this and have been very cool about it up until now. However, seeing the same tree used 4 times in different backgrounds is starting to get a little old.

From here on out, we'll start to be a bit more strict about this type of thing. This is due to the fact that it's unfair and the aim of the Creative Space is to work things with your own hands, not make photo manipulations. The same thing goes for photos or bits of photos.

Painting, blurring or smudging landscape pictures.


Moving forward, we'll simply remove the right to propose any creations to the Creation space forever for those who do try to do this.

Check the perspectives.


When you make a background, please consider that there has to be something for the horse to put his feet on. It's quite strange the have a picture with a nice pond in the background and the horse is floating in the middle of it in thin air.

The same goes for outer space and clouds etc. Just try and make the backgrounds usable for everyone, not just the Pegasus. Also, make sure that the horses won't look like giants in the middle of a forest when you decide to draw trees or other items.

Rules


Plagiarism is forbidden!
Respect the author's rights: we do not steal images off of the Internet; we do not trace photos; we do not use the basis of someone else if they have not given their authorization, preferably publicly.

What is plagiarism? Plagiarism is taking someone else's work and passing them off as your own.

We can take inspiration from a style, a movement, a mane or a coat without copy-pasting it. It’s the same idea for literature, graphic arts, video games or cinema - there is often inspiration taken from another creation. Inspiration is imbued with another creation in order to interpret it and create something new! Copying is recreating identically. Copying is not having a style or a vision of your own. Try to have the imagination and bring your unique personality to your creations.

Please also note that any cheating can get you excluded from proposing any artwork to the Creative Space forever and/or be followed by sanctions.

Otherwise, all the usual rules still apply.

Before posting:


It is forbidden to mock or ridicule creations/creators
Don't post too many steps regarding your work to avoid flooding of the topic.
IT IS FORBIDDEN TO ASK FOR VOTES!

You are welcome to promote your creations or creations you voted for using #HowrseBP on social media or promote your creations on your profile page.

This topic can be used to help each other understand the Black Pearl rules with respect to your creative content.

Players who do not follow the rules are exposed to sanctions.

Regards
The Howrse team
 
cailow
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Also @BLΛƆKPIИK
Thank you for your kind comment.

@Shishi no Serei:
Also thank you. And now that you've pointed out the dark border around the markings thing, I can't unsee it anymore. default smiley xd My pony has never been shaved before, but now it actually looks like she is. Now I don't have to wonder anymore what she would look like if I were to shave her.
robin hood
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Robin Hood: tracing (putting a layer/paper over photo and tracing the outline of photo), cutting out the horse from photo and painting over it is not allowed even when you own the photo.

When I said paint realistically I didnt mean paint over it.


I would cancel that creation for this month, and start over. There are rules on top of the forum that you can read (if you dont understand something,ask! default smiley :) ) , and if you want to create a good coat but need help,post a WIP in here and someone will help you out.Redlining and critique is always available default smiley :)
shishi no seirei
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I've seen that some other people have their doubts if what I am doing is allowed. I'm not sure myself anymore. Please tell me if I did something wrong and I will delete my application. I'm usually only drawing for myself, so I don't really mind if I can't send it in for the Black Pearl. I just thought it would be fun to have my own horse as a GA coat on howrse. default smiley :) And thank you all already for helping me with this.
robin hood
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@Shishi no Serei:
I will probably cancel then. Thank you for your advice! default smiley (l)
But I still have some questions. I don't know if you can see it in the WIP's, but I only used the (traced) line art in the first stages just to know where everything should be. From the third WIP, I didn't use it anymore. i've seen a lot of video's on youtube in which players actually trace pictures for their own line art in the same way, but just like me get rid of that line art once they have their basic shapes and colors.
So to be clear: this is not allowed, right?
robin hood
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Can you all see the WIP's by the way? The link works fine for me, but it might not work for other browsers. If so I will try to upload them somewhere else.

Also, sorry for spamming folks! I just want to be sure that I don't break any rules.
robin hood
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Robin Hood wrote:

@Shishi no Serei:
I will probably cancel then. Thank you for your advice! default smiley (l)
But I still have some questions. I don't know if you can see it in the WIP's, but I only used the (traced) line art in the first stages just to know where everything should be. From the third WIP, I didn't use it anymore. i've seen a lot of video's on youtube in which players actually trace pictures for their own line art in the same way, but just like me get rid of that line art once they have their basic shapes and colors.
So to be clear: this is not allowed, right?


You still traced the lineart and used the lineart for the base and that is against the rulesdefault smiley :) even if the line's aren't visible anymore they were still used at one stage
Ɗємoηѕ
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What do people use to get their coats on a transparent background and have smoothly finished lines?


Also what apps does everyone use for their creations?
blΛƆkpiИk
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@Ɗємoηѕ:
Thanks, that's what I needed to know. default smiley :) So I will go and cancel my application.
A new tip for myself: never trust youtube anymore. I saw so many people doing it, that I thought it must be allowed. Just makes me wonder how many coats actually got through the voting stage that were against the rules.

And to everyone else:
Thank you all for clearing up the confusion!
robin hood
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It is cancelled. default smiley :) I guess I will just have to put up without having my own horse on howrse, which isn't that bad if you have the real thing next to you.
robin hood
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Robin Hood wrote:

@Ɗємoηѕ:
Thanks, that's what I needed to know. default smiley :) So I will go and cancel my application.
A new tip for myself: never trust youtube anymore. I saw so many people doing it, that I thought it must be allowed. Just makes me wonder how many coats actually got through the voting stage that were against the rules.

And to everyone else:
Thank you all for clearing up the confusion!


There are many coats that get through which are against the rules, a lot of people don't know they are breaking them but the majority do which is a shame, however if you see someone doing something and you aren't sure if it's allowed or not, it never hurts to read over the black pearl rules again and that should clear a lot of things up default smiley :) You could definitely have a version on your own horse on here but it would need to be free hand or you could always use a lineart if you aren't comfortable with that yet. default smiley (l)
Ɗємoηѕ
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@Ɗємoηѕ:
It's a shame indeed. However, it's a good lesson for me. I don't know if I will try again with the black pearl. While I've got shading and color use quite down, I'm still horrible at drawing my line art free handed. I just need the tiniest form of guide lines. Without those, my proportions are never quite right. So I guess I will just have to get better, and maybe try again in a few months. And while I can't use the drawing here as a coat, I'm still happy with how it came out, so I just have to be proud of that in itself.
robin hood
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Robin Hood, Dont give up! Make a version of your horse now and in a year or 2 another one. You can be still proud of the one here, even if dosent fit BP world Im sure it gave you some good lesson how to do things. With other words, practice default smiley :)

And yes I have seen a video on Youtube where a howrse player is literally tracing a photo to make a GA coat as well. Unfortunately, it is super outdated, but since its the only one out there people often use it.


Dont give up, start from the beginning. Practice is your best friend as well as critique default smiley :) Freehand isn't easy no. So right now you could train up your ability to eyeball proportions (use simple shapes like circles, rectangles mm to begin with ) to draw a coat. After you get that sketch down, you can start adding details. It usually helps to zoom in on the area you are drawing and sketch with short, fast hand movement (I take it you use a mouse to draw?), or use a simplified shapes and lines to make the lineart (think cartoon-simple to begin with, how simple or advanced it is is up to you. After you get used to simplified shapes you can start working on adding more realistic touches (if you want to), or leave it as it is default smiley :)

The day you submit again your coat will look much better than this, just practice and have fun default smiley :p
shishi no seirei
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@Shishi no Seirei:
Thanks a lot for the great advice! Let's hope that practice and I will become best buddies in the future. default smiley ;) Freehanding digital line art has always been my achilles heel, since I have to use my mouse pad on my computer to draw (I don't even have a mouse) and drawing with just one finger is quite the challenge. Once I get to the coloring and the shading I'm fine, but I still need something to hold on when it comes to line art. I guess I will have to work on my foundations for a while now, instead of aiming for a picture perfect drawing. I've once seen one of these wooden drawing dolls that you can move, but that one had the shape of a horse. default smiley xd Maybe I will try to find something like that.
robin hood
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I'm working with a mouse and dyspraxia. I find it's often easier to just get some colour on, then later zoom in to 4:1 or something and go round the edges with an eraser. And I put different areas on different layers.

There's one I worked on: 'sketch' on page 17, and part finished on 16 which should demonstrate what I mean! The one on 16 only really the head is finished. The final did end up looking sharp, but I now agree with what others have said: the final leg position looks weird!

Having said that my latest submission is using a line art. Funny, they are allowed (as long as the author gives permission) on international, but not on other servers.

I'm still a beginner compared to others on here.
rowangreen
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Some of the horses I'm working on (: lineart aren't mine and some are still incomplete

Would anyone be able to help put them on a transparent background and smooth the edges? I cannot do it for the life of me default smiley xd


https://share.bannersnack.com/bhiezyge9/


https://share.bannersnack.com/bcn84ktdq/


https://share.bannersnack.com/btki2uxra/


https://share.bannersnack.com/bdtj0xv68/
blΛƆkpiИk
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Did you actually make those on bannersnack or in a graphics program?

On smoothing edges: read my post above yours! Though that is with a drawing that's already on a transparent layer...

Getting something transparent if it's already on a white background is more tricky!

No point trying to give instructions if you are not using a program that can do it, so need to find out what you are using first!
rowangreen
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No, I just used that so I could post it here. They have been done on an app and I have Gimp for getting the transparent backgrounds. Would making it transparent from a different colour be easier? If so what one?

I'm also not on a pc, not sure if that will affect anything
blΛƆkpiИk
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OK: how I'd try and do it....

First of all, you need your horse on a layer above the background. If you have it all on one layer, go to layers and make a new layer: I think you could use 'from visible' or 'duplicate layer'? If it gives you the option tick the 'transparency' box (I'm not checking this and I'm a beginner, so not totally sure this will work perfectly!)

Then in the layer dialogue box click the eye icon to the left of the background to make it invisible. Make sure you have the new layer selected.

Choose the selection tool that selects 'by' various things (not the lasso or shape ones....). Leave it on default. Click on the white around the horse and hopefully it will select it. If not try the options!

Use the eraser to erase the background (hopefully it will just do the background!)

Zoom in (view menu) and go round with the eraser neatening the edges. The selection will have got some of it wrong...

Hope that works!
rowangreen
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Thanks for the help! I can actually do it on the app inuse to make the horse which is so much easier as I've become much more accustom to that! Lines are nice and clean and no white pixels on a black background! Thanks a lot!
blΛƆkpiИk
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Hi, there, it's me again. default smiley :)
I might have found a solution for the line art problem I mentioned earlier. I first freehand the line art on real paper with a pencil, then scan it in and draw it on my computer.
Would this be allowed or is this also considered tracing?

Also, I've decided to put photo realism aside for a while, until my foundations (proportions etc.) are a bit stronger so I won't need tracing.

Now something else:
I have digitalized one of my old pencil drawings which I am going to color in with more of a cartoon-like style, but I am not completely happy with how the line art turned out. Can I ask you guys about your opinion on some points?
I'm not too happy with the transition between the tail and the horse's body. I feel like the 'turn' is not natural enough. Do you guys have any tips for that?
Also, I would like to know your opinion on the mane-fins, more specifically on the smaller lines within those fins. At first, I drew those lines more in the style of the other fins (so with more lines closer together), but I felt it was too crowded for the mane-fins. However, now I am afraid that the style of the mane-fins differs too much from the style of the other fins. What do you guys think? Keep it like this or try to draw them more in the style of the other fins (which would mean more lines closer together).

This is the line art:
Nishikigoi Line art

Any other advice is always welcome. default smiley :)
robin hood
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Transition: yes, looks a bit off with it being sort of straight but you've got the horse side on and the fish top on. If you swung the fish downwards that might help. I'd be tempted to shorten the fish bit too, lose the first set of fins and increase the second set a bit. The long body is sort of nice, but the template is square so shorter might fit better!

Maybe you could make yourself a model (maybe a stuffed sock with a line on it for the mane/fish's backbone) and try twisting it to get an idea of how it needs to curve? Not sure that would work lol

With the fins I think you could possibly go either way: make them all narrow or give them all the wider spaced lines! Wider might work better since it's going to need to be shaded and shrunk to final size.
rowangreen
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@RowanGreen:
Thank you for your input. Shortening might be a great idea, I will try it out and see how it looks. Since it is an old drawing (probably two years old or something) I hadn't really thought about the square template.
Your idea about the stuffed sock reminded me that I have an old dolphin plushy laying around somewhere, that would be an ideal model for this drawing. default smiley xd
I guess I will just have to play around a bit with this drawing, and see what works and what doesn't. The same goes for the fins, I will try drawing them all a bit wider and closer as you said, but I will probably go for the wider version. I've taken a look at the zoomed out version of the drawing I already have, and the lines do indeed look a bit weird if the drawing is shrunk to the final size.
Thanks for the advice. I will try it all out.
robin hood
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What are people's thoughts on these? Which ones should I put into creation space? Also having a colour crisis on the starry one


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blΛƆkpiИk
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BLΛƆKPIИK,I really like the 2 last ones in the list. We need more spotted horses in CS default smiley :)

Good choice of colour on the star themed one, However, I suggest looking up some stock photos and add more shading and contrast to this 2 coats you are making so they can be more expressive. RIght now you have a good base layer that you can build up on default smiley :)


(don't forget to credit Darya98/DA for usage of her lines in here when you post WIPS! default smiley :) )
shishi no seirei
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I'm glad to hear you like them. They're my very favourites as the grey was the first one I did and the unicorn one was made by me default smiley ^) I have an unhealthy obsession with super cartoon Gas . I'll enter those for sure!

Still unsure on whether or not I like the little pony but I have plenty of passes so I might enter that one also default smiley xd

Which colour do you think I should go with on the star one? I'm not sure which one I like and want to work on more. The black, green and yellow or white, blue and purple


I completely forgot to add credit. I was just about the put a transparent background on the 2 with her linearts so the copyright was removed *Facepalm*
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