[Updated] Black Pearl Clarification

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We'd like to clarify a few things concerning the proposals for the Creative Space. We've had the time to see how things went and made some changes along with some additional advice.

For the Horses, Pegasus, Unicorns, Donkeys, and Ponies.


Using shadows in your creations:


We are probably going to add them ourselves in the future to have something that has the right perspective on the backgrounds, and that has a uniform texture across the coats.

You can use shadowing, but we ask that you keep them very light so that the images will fit with most Helios Ray backgrounds.

Cut out your edges more.


When we place the coats on a dark background in a lot of cases, there are stray light colored pixels all around the drawing. This makes it impossible to use on a dark background.
Tip Please take the time to take a look at your coat on a white and on a black background, in order to get rid of any leftover smudges or pixels. Also, look a little further away on just the outline. Often the coats have a smudge around the corners or along the border of the image.

Use the smudge or blur tool sparingly.


It's a pity to see a coat that has been worked on then filtered with a blur filter, and it comes out all smudgy. It's also a pity to see a coat with smudge marks on one side and not the other.

Be careful when playing around with reformatting an image.


Sometimes we get perfectly nice drawings of Sausage horses because the file has been altered, and the horse has been squashed or pulled in another direction.
This might be a great way of transforming an Irish setter into a Teckel, but it isn't very pretty on horses. Also, avoid making your resolution too low and giving the picture a pixel art look

Backgrounds


Using brushes is allowed.


They can be used as well, but we'd like to also remind you of the Black Pearl page information as seen in the quote below.

“Excess airbrushing is not allowed”. It is allowed but not too much!"

We have received tons of entries like this and have been very cool about it up until now. However, seeing the same tree used 4 times in different backgrounds is starting to get a little old.

From here on out, we'll start to be a bit more strict about this type of thing. This is due to the fact that it's unfair and the aim of the Creative Space is to work things with your own hands, not make photo manipulations. The same thing goes for photos or bits of photos.

Painting, blurring or smudging landscape pictures.


Moving forward, we'll simply remove the right to propose any creations to the Creation space forever for those who do try to do this.

Check the perspectives.


When you make a background, please consider that there has to be something for the horse to put his feet on. It's quite strange the have a picture with a nice pond in the background and the horse is floating in the middle of it in thin air.

The same goes for outer space and clouds etc. Just try and make the backgrounds usable for everyone, not just the Pegasus. Also, make sure that the horses won't look like giants in the middle of a forest when you decide to draw trees or other items.

Rules


Plagiarism is forbidden!
Respect the author's rights: we do not steal images off of the Internet; we do not trace photos; we do not use the basis of someone else if they have not given their authorization, preferably publicly.

What is plagiarism? Plagiarism is taking someone else's work and passing them off as your own.

We can take inspiration from a style, a movement, a mane or a coat without copy-pasting it. It’s the same idea for literature, graphic arts, video games or cinema - there is often inspiration taken from another creation. Inspiration is imbued with another creation in order to interpret it and create something new! Copying is recreating identically. Copying is not having a style or a vision of your own. Try to have the imagination and bring your unique personality to your creations.

Please also note that any cheating can get you excluded from proposing any artwork to the Creative Space forever and/or be followed by sanctions.

Otherwise, all the usual rules still apply.

Before posting:


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This topic can be used to help each other understand the Black Pearl rules with respect to your creative content.

Players who do not follow the rules are exposed to sanctions.

Regards
The Howrse team
 
cailow
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Hi Puppy, I don't know the answer to your question! But some things I'd think might be a problem:

I notice your second picture has changed shape from the first: it's shorter in proportion to the height. I don't know if this would cause it to get blurry on it's own.

Another problem might be when you are exporting it to the file type needed. Check you read everything and have the right settings. From what I remember gimp has good advice on the settings that you can get to from the pop up boxes. You need to make sure the file is as high resolution as you can.

More on getting the picture into the template: If I have it in a second file I tend to 'copy visible' then in the template file paste as a new layer. I then use 'scale layer' to get it down to the right size. Make sure the dimensions are 'locked' (with the chain icon) so that they scale the same amount in each direction and your drawing stays the same shape. Also check the settings: I think there's more than one method it uses to resize and something there could be the problem. If it's not scaled right, then undo and try with different numbers rather than scaling multiple times.

Hopefully that makes sense, but say if it doesn't (I'm doing it from memory: think I've got the names of things right but I may have got something wrong!)
rowangreen
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Hello. I have made a few GA coats, but I feel like their quality is still not good enough to even submit. I have a few questions I've been hoping that someone could answer.

What is the best size to start your GA coat out on? I'm stuck on trying to figure out how to get all the detail in without losing the quality of the creation. Is it best to start by drawing it the size of the template, or is it possible to keep the quality of a much larger drawing as you downscale it to fit the template?

I have both Gimp 2.8 and Photoshop. Is one of those better than the other? I am more comfortable with Gimp since I have been using it longer than I got Photoshop.

The other things that I have trouble with are the mane and tail. I always feel like I end up using the smudge tool way too often. I have a few of my creations on my page. I don't know how to put them into this message...
vanderlt1
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vanderlt1 wrote:

Hello. I have made a few GA coats, but I feel like their quality is still not good enough to even submit. I have a few questions I've been hoping that someone could answer.

What is the best size to start your GA coat out on? I'm stuck on trying to figure out how to get all the detail in without losing the quality of the creation. Is it best to start by drawing it the size of the template, or is it possible to keep the quality of a much larger drawing as you downscale it to fit the template?

I have both Gimp 2.8 and Photoshop. Is one of those better than the other? I am more comfortable with Gimp since I have been using it longer than I got Photoshop.

The other things that I have trouble with are the mane and tail. I always feel like I end up using the smudge tool way too often. I have a few of my creations on my page. I don't know how to put them into this message...


I gave a tip on how to draw the mane and tail in one of my previous comments here (yesterday) for GIMP2.8. Just search for the comment here. (Or see on of my thorough tutorials here ( https://www.deviantart.com/nanalina20/art/Hair-and-tail-redraw-GIMP-Tutorial-670295340 )

As for resizing your image, i use (Image link > scale image >choose the size of your image) the standard size for the image is 300x300. If it's still blurry then try to up the resolution of the image (you will find it in the same window that will pop out below the image size).

Try sharpening the image as well, you can do it in two ways (either go to Filters link and choose Enhance then Sharpen) or to select the Blur/Sharpen tool located in the tools bar (the teardrop one).

Hope this helps.
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vanderlt1 wrote:

Hello. I have made a few GA coats, but I feel like their quality is still not good enough to even submit. I have a few questions I've been hoping that someone could answer.

What is the best size to start your GA coat out on? I'm stuck on trying to figure out how to get all the detail in without losing the quality of the creation. Is it best to start by drawing it the size of the template, or is it possible to keep the quality of a much larger drawing as you downscale it to fit the template?

I have both Gimp 2.8 and Photoshop. Is one of those better than the other? I am more comfortable with Gimp since I have been using it longer than I got Photoshop.

The other things that I have trouble with are the mane and tail. I always feel like I end up using the smudge tool way too often. I have a few of my creations on my page. I don't know how to put them into this message...


For starters, always use the program you feel most comfortable with.While Photoshop is amazing, it dosent mean the coat will look better/ have better quality if its made with PS rather than other program. Since you have used GIMP for longer time,use GIMP,that way you wont have to concentrate on both how to navigate around and how to make your coat.

When it comes to mane and tail, you can use Alina`s advice about the fading out-trick, or look up some tutorials on DA default smiley :) Found a interesting one that uses a smudging technique that gives pretty nice results:

GIMP smudging technique
shishi no seirei
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vanderlt1 wrote:

What is the best size to start your GA coat out on? I'm stuck on trying to figure out how to get all the detail in without losing the quality of the creation. Is it best to start by drawing it the size of the template, or is it possible to keep the quality of a much larger drawing as you downscale it to fit the template?


I also have this question! Excited to get working, but really worried I'm going to spend a lot of time and effort only to have a poor-quality produce. I'm used to drawing on much larger canvasses, but don't have too much experience resizing (the lineart I'm using is approx. 3000x4000) and am trying to figure out the best way to go about this. Thanks!
brokensunsets
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Never draw in the template size guys! It will make any accidental mistakes and shaky lines visible, not to mention you don't have enough space to do any good shading or lightning!

The absolute minimum size you should use is 1500 x 1500px. Its big enough for you to work on and big enough to add details will also have decent sharpness. Remember to zoom out to 100% when you are done with re-siting and fitting your coat into the frame! If you are zoomed in too much, the coat will look blurry and pixelated.


I recommend a bigger canvas than that (as far your program and computer can handle it.)

Do NOT use canvas bigger than 5000 x 5000px in SAI,if you do you may end up in a situation where the program wont be able to open that canvas anymore (I lost 2 BGs thanks to that mistake sigh...)

Personally, I draw on 5000+ canvas... then when I am done and have saved 5000 x 5000 coat as png, I re-open the PNG file, use the "Image size" (and resize it from there) until the coat fits into the frame. It allows me to go go nuts with details if I feel like it,and my lines end up being thin (whenever I want them to be thin >3)



Don't stress out too much about the quality.
The only thing that could be bad is if the end result looks blurry or is pixelated.
shishi no seirei
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Hey every one long time no speak! il be here to help any one who need it any questions about art no matter how stupid default smiley :d Im also know on other sites as Edith Sparrow so please dont think im stealing pony10girl i made over 11 years ago on here as iv become a illustrator iv taken the name Edith Sparrow (its not my real name) This site gave me my passion for drawing and id love to give back and help others as many helped me <3
Honestly i dont bite pm me or ask on here default smiley :d

Some of my art work

pony10girl
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pony10girl That's stunning!!default smiley (7)default smiley (7)
evelyn xing
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Hello!
This is one of my first attempts at creating GA. I would be very grateful if someone told me how I can improve it. Thanks in advance default smiley :)
aleksandra
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I forgot: lineart is made by Darya87
aleksandra
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I love the colours! I also like that you've put some life/shine in the eye: so many leave the eyes just as blobs! I think it needs more contrast though: some lighter highlights. It is already a bit dark, and will probably lose some contrast when it is shrunk to submit.
rowangreen
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Aleksandra wrote:

Hello!
This is one of my first attempts at creating GA. I would be very grateful if someone told me how I can improve it. Thanks in advance default smiley :)


Im always weak for space-looking horses...especially the blue/purple combo ones. Looks great default smiley (7)

As RowanGreen said, you need some more highlights. The coat is fine as it is, but it feels...

I recommend either light blue, creme,yellow or pink, if you make another layer for highlights you can go crazy and experiment. The dots/dapples are stars are they? you could make them much,much lighter and shiny. Experiment and see what happens default smiley :)


Still,great work with it so far default smiley :d
shishi no seirei
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RowanGreen and Shishi no Seirei thank you both. I will try to add some highlights then and make stars more shiny default smiley :)
aleksandra
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pony10girl wrote:

Hey every one long time no speak! il be here to help any one who need it any questions about art no matter how stupid default smiley :d Im also know on other sites as Edith Sparrow so please dont think im stealing pony10girl i made over 11 years ago on here as iv become a illustrator iv taken the name Edith Sparrow (its not my real name) This site gave me my passion for drawing and id love to give back and help others as many helped me <3
Honestly i dont bite pm me or ask on here default smiley :d

Some of my art work



missed u girl
starynight
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Beautiful drawings!

I'm new in this place, I'm doing these rays


This is almost finished, I will add some stars.


This one is missing some work.
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For those of you with drawing tablets, I am getting a Huion H610 Pro for Christmas. I read a lot of reviews that said it was a great one to use, but I've never used one before. Tips?
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PsychedZebra wrote:

For those of you with drawing tablets, I am getting a Huion H610 Pro for Christmas. I read a lot of reviews that said it was a great one to use, but I've never used one before. Tips?


I use a huion not that one but i can highly recommend the brand default smiley :d
pony10girl
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@pony10girl

Awesome! I love your artwork btw default smiley ;)

what drawing program do you use for it?
psychedzebra
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pony10girl, Huion brand is really really good default smiley :d A lot of my friends who use it call it "wacom in cheaper disguise". They are as sharp and sensitive to pen pressure and are high-quality tablets. Congrats on getting it default smiley :d I'm sure it will serve you well default smiley :)
shishi no seirei
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I use photoshop CC for my art work!
pony10girl
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pony10girl wrote:

I use photoshop CC for my art work!

Thank you! default smiley (l)
psychedzebra
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pony10girl - They look awesome default smiley (7)

Haven't been here in a while, doubt anyone remembers me but good to be back default smiley :d Speaking of Huion, has anyone any experience with their cheapest ones? I'm in Australia until April and I didn't bring my tablet, so might consider purchasing one. But since I have one back home, I don't wanna spend too much money on it either. default smiley (lol)
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Hello! I am a professional artist in real life, but i'm a digital art noob pretty much. I haven't done any digital art in about 4 or 5 years, here's the last thing I did thoughdefault smiley :-))

I'm planning to create a black pearl coat or two, so any advice on good tablets that won't break the bank would be appreciated!

Hopefully that code works, I've forgotten how to do them its been so long XD
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Where can I find the Black Pearl page?
meadow brook
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Meadow Brook wrote:

Where can I find the Black Pearl page?


Here's a llink default smiley :)
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