[Updated] Black Pearl Clarification

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We'd like to clarify a few things concerning the proposals for the Creative Space. We've had the time to see how things went and made some changes along with some additional advice.

For the Horses, Pegasus, Unicorns, Donkeys, and Ponies.


Using shadows in your creations:


We are probably going to add them ourselves in the future to have something that has the right perspective on the backgrounds, and that has a uniform texture across the coats.

You can use shadowing, but we ask that you keep them very light so that the images will fit with most Helios Ray backgrounds.

Cut out your edges more.


When we place the coats on a dark background in a lot of cases, there are stray light colored pixels all around the drawing. This makes it impossible to use on a dark background.
Tip Please take the time to take a look at your coat on a white and on a black background, in order to get rid of any leftover smudges or pixels. Also, look a little further away on just the outline. Often the coats have a smudge around the corners or along the border of the image.

Use the smudge or blur tool sparingly.


It's a pity to see a coat that has been worked on then filtered with a blur filter, and it comes out all smudgy. It's also a pity to see a coat with smudge marks on one side and not the other.

Be careful when playing around with reformatting an image.


Sometimes we get perfectly nice drawings of Sausage horses because the file has been altered, and the horse has been squashed or pulled in another direction.
This might be a great way of transforming an Irish setter into a Teckel, but it isn't very pretty on horses. Also, avoid making your resolution too low and giving the picture a pixel art look

Backgrounds


Using brushes is allowed.


They can be used as well, but we'd like to also remind you of the Black Pearl page information as seen in the quote below.

“Excess airbrushing is not allowed”. It is allowed but not too much!"

We have received tons of entries like this and have been very cool about it up until now. However, seeing the same tree used 4 times in different backgrounds is starting to get a little old.

From here on out, we'll start to be a bit more strict about this type of thing. This is due to the fact that it's unfair and the aim of the Creative Space is to work things with your own hands, not make photo manipulations. The same thing goes for photos or bits of photos.

Painting, blurring or smudging landscape pictures.


Moving forward, we'll simply remove the right to propose any creations to the Creation space forever for those who do try to do this.

Check the perspectives.


When you make a background, please consider that there has to be something for the horse to put his feet on. It's quite strange the have a picture with a nice pond in the background and the horse is floating in the middle of it in thin air.

The same goes for outer space and clouds etc. Just try and make the backgrounds usable for everyone, not just the Pegasus. Also, make sure that the horses won't look like giants in the middle of a forest when you decide to draw trees or other items.

Rules


Plagiarism is forbidden!
Respect the author's rights: we do not steal images off of the Internet; we do not trace photos; we do not use the basis of someone else if they have not given their authorization, preferably publicly.

What is plagiarism? Plagiarism is taking someone else's work and passing them off as your own.

We can take inspiration from a style, a movement, a mane or a coat without copy-pasting it. It’s the same idea for literature, graphic arts, video games or cinema - there is often inspiration taken from another creation. Inspiration is imbued with another creation in order to interpret it and create something new! Copying is recreating identically. Copying is not having a style or a vision of your own. Try to have the imagination and bring your unique personality to your creations.

Please also note that any cheating can get you excluded from proposing any artwork to the Creative Space forever and/or be followed by sanctions.

Otherwise, all the usual rules still apply.

Before posting:


It is forbidden to mock or ridicule creations/creators
Don't post too many steps regarding your work to avoid flooding of the topic.
IT IS FORBIDDEN TO ASK FOR VOTES!

You are welcome to promote your creations or creations you voted for using #HowrseBP on social media or promote your creations on your profile page.

This topic can be used to help each other understand the Black Pearl rules with respect to your creative content.

Players who do not follow the rules are exposed to sanctions.

Regards
The Howrse team
 
cailow
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Thanks guys, I actually saw a couple of nice donkey drawings in this latest lot of creations.default smiley :)default smiley (y) They looked like donkeys and not monsters!!
I do find it very annoying though when I see 3 really good drawings all together and I can only vote on one and then in the next lot there are 3 bad drawings. I don't know why they do this but it happens all the time. This is why some of the bad ones slip through when there are so many good ones out there. default smiley :$
jdean
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jdean wrote:

Thanks guys, I actually saw a couple of nice donkey drawings in this latest lot of creations.default smiley :)default smiley (y) They looked like donkeys and not monsters!!
I do find it very annoying though when I see 3 really good drawings all together and I can only vote on one and then in the next lot there are 3 bad drawings. I don't know why they do this but it happens all the time. This is why some of the bad ones slip through when there are so many good ones out there. default smiley :$


Sometimes bad ones go trough because the reports are ignored. Just look at all photo-manips going trough each round. Got 5 of those "coats" today to vote for.default smiley (d)
shishi no seirei
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Hope this isn't really against the rules..

But I got this today while in voting...
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Just weird and funny and quite the coincidence. XD
wolf of the north
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@Shishi no Seirei - I know exactly what you mean, I saw quite a few photo manipulations today.

@Wolf of the North - Wow, what are the chances of that happening! default smiley xd
dirksteinmann
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Reports are constantly ignored. I have reported quite a few that have either been put on the wrong background, look like someones two year old drew them, or are downright offensive to both adults and children, and yet I still see the same ones popping up.
It's a total waste of time and effort reporting anything.
jdean
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I'm seeing a lot of great coats and backgrounds so far, I have high expectations for this round!

However, for the first time ever in my years of playing I saw someone submit a very popular, semi-internet-famous piece of artwork as their own. I recognized it because I used to use it as my desktop wallpaper many years ago. It boggles my mind that some people think they can plagiarize well-known pieces of artwork and not get caught.

I looked for it through all available landscapes in voting after reporting it, and the person even submitted it twice, under two different titles! I dearly hope neither of them make it through, which I'm worried about because the artwork is stunning and could very well be voted for many times by unknowing players.

I don't know if I'd get in trouble for posting the titles and picture of the fake background here, so I'll just say the real artwork is called Scorched Earth by arcipello on DeviantArt, I won't post any outside links to it but you can even just google "cherry tree lava", and practically the whole search page is covered with Scorched Earth.
foxydancer
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FoxyDancer, don't know if it's allowed, but glad you did. I've not had that one come up in voting, but did notice it when I had a look at the landscapes. I didn't recognise it, but I did think it weird that someone would put the same thing in with two different names and no changes at all. I also suspect it wouldn't give great placement for a horse: I always have a question mark when I see a great piece of art but it's just not arranged to fit the horse into it. You've got to wonder then if someone who could draw that well couldn't make a place for the horse!

Perhaps other people could post some hints for recognising photo manips etc? Some I suspect, but I don't feel I can really tell for sure on many.
rowangreen
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I've sent an email to the artist via his own website to ask if by any chance it was legit (but I very much doubt it, as I'm sure if it was him he'd have submitted it under it's original name!). I'm also now thinking this probably applies also to the landscape submitted twice under two different names just before that. They are on page 6 of the listing if anyone wants to look.
rowangreen
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Just did my voting and guess what came up? Against something dull and muddy and something I think was pretty definitely a photo manip (and of a boring photo!). The dull, muddy one got my vote...
rowangreen
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FoxyDancer: Submitting ANYTHING that isnt yours (besides lineart) is against the rules.

THe creation must be:
*your work - your hands must create the piece.While it is fine to take inspiration from something,the piece cannot have any copyright material in it, be made out of stock photos, photos you yourself took and painted/smudged or edited mm. Said piece cannot be made by someone else just so you can submit it.

(Note:If you find art on Deviantart that is identical to a coat, make sure to send a message to said Deviantart- user, since sometimes said the user is a member on Howrse and submits their art here as well. A few people noted me about my art being onHowrse before I started to mark my Howrse-coats with a message that yes,I will be submitting said art here.).l

*Taking someone else's work and submitting it to creation space is called theft. It is aggravating for both the voters, the other howrse-artists AND the original artists that now will enjoy trying to convince Contact us it's their work.



Using linearts is fine,as far the lineart creator allows their lines to be used on Howrse.


The background you mention; I have seen it 100 times in Helios Ray category this year. This isn't the first time,wont be the last. If you do reversed-image-search, google finds it really fast.
shishi no seirei
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Shishi no Seirei wrote:

FoxyDancer: Submitting ANYTHING that isnt yours (besides lineart) is against the rules.
I am aware that plagarization of a finished work is against the rules, that was the gist of my message. Thank you for clarifying the details for everyone else though. I think what confused you was my saying "I don't know if I'd get in trouble" - that was in relation to posting the titles and image here in this forum. I didn't know if that would fall under "naming" and shaming, and I'd rather be safe than risk having my message censored.

I don't view all artwork during the voting phase, but you saying you've seen it 100 times before makes me sad. I have sentimental value attached to Scorched Earth, so even though I've seen manips and possible plagiarization before, this was the first one that really staggered me.

RowanGreen wrote:

I've sent an email to the artist via his own website to ask if by any chance it was legit (but I very much doubt it, as I'm sure if it was him he'd have submitted it under it's original name!).
Thank you for messaging the artist! I considered messaging him too, but I couldn't find his professional contact info (just did today - whoops) and I didn't want to send a note on DeviantArt because I'm sure he is flooded with messages on there already, but the double posting and neither title being the correct title made me really doubt it was him. There's always a chance though.
foxydancer
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Foxy: Yw! Sending a note is never wrong,just make sure to have good title that hints on what you are noting them about.Most artists are grateful for this kind of notes even if they end up being mistakes default smiley :)


Dont know if posting the titles of coats is against the rules...I mean its a coat,it has a name.... you cant call it just " the bay horse that rears" because he have a lot of those XD YOu would have to ask a mod about the title thing.
shishi no seirei
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Shishi no Seirei wrote:

Sending a note is never wrong,just make sure to have good title that hints on what you are noting them about.Most artists are grateful for this kind of notes even if they end up being mistakes default smiley :)
Oh for sure - but this guy is a professional artist. I wanted to find his professional email address but couldn't (so it's a good thing RowanGreen did), since he is extremely popular on DeviantArt (has many Daily Deviation awards) so whatever message I would have sent him on that platform would have been lost in the masses. So I am very grateful to RowanGreen for emailing his professional address and I hope they hear back from him. If I had found plagiarized work of someone else who is less well known, I would not have hesitated to contact them using DA's messaging system. I am an artist too, I am already aware of all these things you are telling me, but again, I appreciate your sentiment.

It's probably not wrong to post titles in general, but in this case it would have been accusatory. I was very careful to not say something like, "Go report this artwork!" or "If you see this don't vote for it!" because that definitely would have gone too far. It seems it can easily be found by other people even though I didn't post the titles, so it doesn't matter anyways.
foxydancer
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FoxyDancer I have just seen the scene that you have mentioned in the voting. Obviously it doesn't matter that it has been deemed plagiarism. You are just wasting you time reporting abuses. The only time they seem to take any notice is after the drawings have already been voted in and used by several players. Then they take them off the golden apple and helios ray pics.
jdean
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jdean: Its better to report it anyway,even if it usually is waste of time. If it is reported at least people can say it was reported and it got trough despite of the report,showing the flaw in the reporting system and lack of care from higher-ups corner. If it wasnt reported by anyone then they dont have to do anything...

I dont blame people who dont report artwork tough...I have days when I cant be bothered to be art-police myself. Sigh.
shishi no seirei
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Switching to different topic, I was browsing submissions and I just realized there are only 3 pages for winged drafts. This made me curious about other categories, so I had to check it. Now I'm pretty surprised: 38 pages for normal horses, 20 for unicorns, 13 for ponies and everything else is under 10. It was always like this? So many normal horses and much less others? I mean ok, donkeys and drafts are less numerous due breeding restrictions, so less need for coats, but the rest? (yes, unicorns have restrictions too, but still people are more attracted to majestic fantasy horses than to dull donkeys).
barbara von danzig
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Actually nevermind about unicorns, I forgot about these 20 pages default smiley xd
barbara von danzig
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Barbara: Never bothered to check exact page-numbers, but this looks just about right. Peggys are fun to draw, but wings can be hard to make look good enough with your horse pose. Riding horses are easiest to draw but also have harder competition.

And breeding restrictions have nothing to do with how many coats are made for said breed default smiley :)
even when a horse cannot breed anymore,said horse can still do good as a collection item-holder default smiley :)

It's more about drafts being harder to draw (at least if you spent several years getting used to drawing sports horses or ponies. Adding little fluff and thicker mane on a normal horse will just not do the trick. You have to take in consideration their thicker legs, bigger body, much thicker neck and sometimes small head. If someone has never drawn a draft before, making a draft (especially a winged draft) will be a real challenge for them, not to mention that if you want to make the wings look as if they could make your draft horse fly then you are in one heck of a ride to make those wings look believable.

People usually draw what they already can draw, even if they like to challenge themselves sometimes.
shishi no seirei
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So many people put their drawings into the wrong classes I've noticed. I think because there is such a lot of competition with the riding horses that they think they have more chance of getting voted on by putting their drawings in and classifying them as donkies or ponies.
jdean
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I am tired of seeing coats where the artist puts horse hooves on a random animal and classifies it as a horse. I'm not talking about the coats that have horse features and are just colored differently. I am talking about actual coats that are nothing like an equine.default smiley (o) Anyway, that is just my two cents in this voting round. We have different categories because ponies, donkeys, drafts, etc. all look different and putting in a creation that doesn't align with any category is just making it annoying.

On the other hand, I have seen many cute coats this round too.
szynszyla
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I am surprised because this round has less artworks in total than previous ones! The only good thing in this situation is that maybe (maybe) more good artworks will get through this month. But it's just maybe, because all the time I use up all my "skips" and end up with more combinations I don't want to vote for. The most terrifying is probably the HR cathegory, because some of these backgrounds are altered photos or plagiatarised popular wallpapers. Not to mention all these clones. :C

I am bored with
szynszyla wrote:

coats where the artist puts horse hooves on a random animal and classifies it as a horse
too. Seriously, an animal head and tail attached to a horse is sometimes fine, horse coloured as an animal and given some characteristic features too. An animal with attached hoves is a NO! The same with animals like deers or reindeers- some people think they are smart and instead of giving a horse antlers and proper colouring they draw a deer and give it horse hooves.
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Sikora wrote:

am surprised because this round has less artworks in total than previous ones!

Maybe it's because of the new 10 creations per person limit? In the past there were so many people who drew like one horse, gave it 20 different coat colors and send them all in. Add a horn to all 20 and they had 40 coats per month in voting.

Sikora wrote:

An animal with attached hoves is a NO!

Totally agree. And don't forget the wolf in the donkey category (I've seen the thing for multiple months now), it doesn't even have hooves default smiley (8)
bimmerd
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jdean wrote:

So many people put their drawings into the wrong classes I've noticed. I think because there is such a lot of competition with the riding horses that they think they have more chance of getting voted on by putting their drawings in and classifying them as donkies or ponies.


True (and drafts...), but I also wonder if sometimes people who've found a line art to colour in don't know the difference?

I've also seen a load this month, that I suspect are coloured in line arts, that hardly have eyes, just blobs in various colours.

And then there's those intricate drawings where the colours are all one so I can see it's detailed but blowed if I can work out where the head is any time soon...
rowangreen
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Bimmerd wrote:

Totally agree. And don't forget the wolf in the donkey category (I've seen the thing for multiple months now), it doesn't even have hooves default smiley (8)
I think I know which wolf you are talking about and yes, what must have thought it's author by sending it?!
Bimmerd wrote:

Maybe it's because of the new 10 creations per person limit? In the past there were so many people who drew like one horse, gave it 20 different coat colors and send them all in. Add a horn to all 20 and they had 40 coats per month in voting.
They didn't disapear (at least they were during the last rounds) and that limit was not released this month for the first time. I think that maybe people are on holidays during the first week of August (because later they have to take care of school) and simply didn't make it, but that would be known next round.


Btw, which cathegories do you think need more nice artworks currently? (Except donkeys, because about these I remeber, I made one new for this round.) I am replacing my old creations with their "fresh new versions" or totally new artworks and all cathegories have vacancies now.
sikora
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I've been reporting that wolf and also the reindeer that someone keeps putting in for months now and yet they still keep coming. That kind of tells me that they don't even bother to read our abuse reports.default smiley (o)
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