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sooo, i have to buy the prizes with my horseshoes or do i get those prizes when i reach a certain number of horseshoes ?


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The latter. The farther up the meter you go (by earning horseshoes), the more prizes you can get. You have to click "get", once you've reached the prize, so don't forget to hit that button before the event ends. Same thing goes for Premium Key prizes.
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If the premium key becomes normal. I am literally quitting, I have no social friends on here anymore and I am only here to collect divines. Your now putting FRAGMENTS behind the pay wall. It's just not happening, EVER. I am quitting, so will so many other players. Then ubisoft will eventually have to cancel the game because so many ''big'' players who bought passes regularly when it was WORTH IT are gonna eventually stop because now it's just... I won't even say. I would be extremely surprised if howrse stays a game until 2025. It's expensive, boring and the social aspect sucks. Why does ubisoft do this to us?
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By Retired breeder, 28th July 2021 15:57:34
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NOT happy about this Premium thing. Howrse must be in big need of money or something. Funny, because the only reason they're not getting it anymore is because of things like this - they are pushing away the long time pass buyers, and offending the non-pass buyers. 600 passes! default smiley :-x That is two months of a pegasus account. Like, seriously?!
What's next, are we going to have to pay a subscription to even just stay signed-up to howrse?
I don't have preprod anymore so am just going to post this here:
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I think the 'Premium Key' or whatever it's called is just to test the waters (and hopefully with this negative feedback they won't make it permanent or as expensive). I don't remember all the details, but last year there were a couple of times when the new divine wasn't even released in a luck item and you had to buy chests to get fragments. They haven't done that recently though.

At the end of the day Ubisoft is a company and needs money in order to stay in business. Howrse may be free to join but is strategically designed to get you to spend it. Personally I do think the new prize system is ridiculous. But saying you're quitting is not going to threaten/stop them as long as it's the majority of the big pass buyers leaving. People join and quit all the time and if you don't buy passes Howrse doesn't really care about you.

Another thing, it's not really a divide between pass buyers v non-pass buyers because we're all just players and although pass buyers have an advantage it's more of *how* you play and what you do with your resources that determines how successful you are in game.


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maybe Qilin can't cover donkicorns because donkeys have a decreasing GP and Qilin doesn't so idk how that would work. This is probably why we don't have mules yet. Also donkey foundies have a greater GP than Qilin so breeding them would give the foals quite a boost downwards.
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Well, I'm not so mad about the premium key. While I do think that the price could be lower, you can earn those passes back in like 20 days (not counting pass seeds)? I mean I'm not going to buy it, since the only thing on the premium list I care about is the female donkey uni and the 4x multiplier.

My strategy is praying to the powers that be, that I won't have to max out the meter for Caradoc. I will try to get the donkeys through the battle. Chances of that happening are close to zero for me, because at the time of the battle I'll be stressing about my final state exam default smiley (lol).

My only complaint is that we got all those draft unis (or any other top prize in the last few promos, really) for free and now you have to spend quite a lot of passes to have it, it's a huge contrast and I'm not surprised people hate it. If I owned Qilin, I would be rather upset about that too and I really hope they'll reconsider this at least.
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I think the 'Premium Key' or whatever it's called is just to test the waters (and hopefully with this negative feedback they won't make it permanent or as expensive).


The problem is, they rarely do listen to feedback. Look at the surveys for the last events, Sushi Bar, Equestrian Parade, Medieval Mazes, etc. The amount of people that have asked for no fragments for prizes is astonishing. And what do we still have? Fragments as prizes. Preprod seems to be a test site for Howrse to find bugs and errors in the promos, not for players to suggest different prizes/different promo mechanics. I know that multiple players asked for them to improve the prizes for this current Piñata promo during testing and the prizes (not shockingly) stayed the same.
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True, most of the time they don't listen but there have been certain situations where they did and made changes. We got a Falabella in last year's piñatas due to negative feedback, for example. They can hear out players although it's not guaranteed they will make any changes. Players can't get everything they ask for.
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The key will probably be implemented anyway but it could simply be an experiment to see if it's successful.

Fragments are going to stay because those going after the divine need them and those who aren't are encouraged to try if they end up with a bunch of frags. The balance of fragments to actual prizes is whack but they are kind of free after all. Howrse being stingy is nothing new, they're only trying to push their limits further with the premium key.
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I'm just gonna say- and I hope I'm not bashed for it- the 600p you spend buying through the pay wall is well worth it. A hestia alone could sell for 500p+ on the right unicorn. Not only that but having the two companions behind a paywall that so many will bjy through will still keep them slightly rarer than they would be if everyone had access to it.
I don't buy passes, I never have and I don't think I will for the next few years. But 600p is nothing for me. This event is farther enough away that if you did 20 days of objectives, you'd still have enough time to get more passes. Yes, the price is rediculous to think about, but players spend, on average, 1900-4000 passes on a divine. So its pretty much making the divine cheaper by getting a 4x frag drop in fleeces.
I will be buying the paywall if they keep it, or lower the price. But the funny thing is that all the passes I have right now are "free" passes I got from selling things and doing objectives. So they won't be making any money from me
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Haley2160 wrote:

The problem is, they rarely do listen to feedback. Look at the surveys for the last events, Sushi Bar, Equestrian Parade, Medieval Mazes, etc. The amount of people that have asked for no fragments for prizes is astonishing. And what do we still have? Fragments as prizes. Preprod seems to be a test site for Howrse to find bugs and errors in the promos, not for players to suggest different prizes/different promo mechanics. I know that multiple players asked for them to improve the prizes for this current Piñata promo during testing and the prizes (not shockingly) stayed the same.


I can tell you that feedback is certainly listened to. Especially the feedback that comes at the end of contests. However I can also tell you that if it does not fit in with the mechanics of the game or the business plan of the company it will not happen. Or, at least, not at that time.

We all have to remember that this may be a game to us but to the people who run the company and the shareholders who invest in it, it is a serious financial business and all income and outgoings must be accounted for.

That does not mean of course that we should not continue to give feedback whether positive or negative. Even if we do not get exactly what we want it is taken into account and changes are made wherever possible although they may take months or even years.
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It seems like part of our complaining has already worked. On Preprod right now, the female unicorn donkey has become the default prize (as in, the male donkey is now the premium prize).
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It seems like part of our complaining has already worked. On Preprod right now, the female unicorn donkey has become the default prize (as in, the male donkey is now the premium prize).


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The female donkey is still the premium prize, they just switched the colours for some reason default smiley :) If you look at the symbols closely you'll notice that, it is super confusing
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Blubbs wrote:

True, most of the time they don't listen but there have been certain situations where they did and made changes. We got a Falabella in last year's piñatas due to negative feedback, for example. They can hear out players although it's not guaranteed they will make any changes. Players can't get everything they ask for.


My apologies, I must have missed that event when it was live. Thank you for bringing up past examples of times when feedback was actively heard (especially around promos). It seems to be few and far between, but I am glad to hear that there have been changes implemented in the past and that they can hear us! default smiley (l)
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Sorry Rogin i forgotdefault smiley :(
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Well I'm going to be the unpopular option here, I kind of like the idea of the Key.
Not at the cost of rewards you would otherwise have gotten without it, but for extra rewards on top of those I'll be interested.

I'm agreeing that it's wrong that 1 unicorn donkey is locked behind it, because that would be the initiative for anyone not spending passes to play the promo.
But the rest of it especially the 4x multiplier they would be worth 600 passes in my opinion.

Basically I always go for the divine so I'm probably spending the 600 passes anyway if I spent it at the start of the promo and get a few extra things for them instead of at the end for the luck item, I can't really see the problem.

I read a few times that people aren't happy about there being divine fragments as regular rewards, maybe if they were put behind the key alongside a few extra goodies and you are guaranteed that you spare those passes at the end on getting the divine.

Then if you don't want the divine you don't buy the key.
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i will raise hell over my Qilin nolonger being able to cover all types of female unicorn ontop of this Key.
You nerf something i paid for and then decide to lock a bunch of content from an event, wich should be free minus the small advantage to catch up or finish early!
I dang well hope they listen to feedback, but the team of Monkey better actually REALLY concider tgis feedback.
A lot of people are already unhappy with a lot of changes to the game, this might just push a mass of people quitting.
So unless they want that, they best reconcider this sort of thing.
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CrimsonDax wrote:

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It seems like part of our complaining has already worked. On Preprod right now, the female unicorn donkey has become the default prize (as in, the male donkey is now the premium prize).


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Female is still a premium reward,the colors are just inverted.I brought this to their attention in the forum saying it was confusing and basically got the response of "we'll forward your feedback to the designers and see if they want to change their minds ." so it may remain that way because"colors colors aren't gender specific"
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The colors getting switched on the unis doesn't sit right with me. It feels like Howrse is using "colors aren't gender specific" as an excuse to try and convince players that they're actually listening to feedback when they're just changing a color to make it look like they care.
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do we know weekend promo yet?
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If howrse cheapens the price of the premium key to 300p or lower, I would get it, but 600p, in their dreams.
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It seems there's no spoilers on tomorrow promo?
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Weekend promo on twitter
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idk how to make the image any smaller lol sorry
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