[Info] Cross breeders

Finally a post just for us cross breeders. The purpose of this topic is for cross breeders to have a place to discuss their crossbreeding programs and to share crossbreeding secrets and advice with others who may be interested in giving crossbreeding a try. Feel free to talk about your crossbreeding programs and your achievements and failures in crossbreeding.
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zepharo
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Or would it be because it followed the sires second listed breed result? It's hard to know which rule it's following default smiley :( If so, then I'm still wondering why the horse Cricket and Crispy never gave me Aussie foals when switching up their sexes for breeding.
prettypegasus
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prettypegasus wrote:

Or would it be because it followed the sires second listed breed result? It's hard to know which rule it's following default smiley :( If so, then I'm still wondering why the horse Cricket and Crispy never gave me Aussie foals when switching up their sexes for breeding.
I think it's following sire's second listed breed, because for all three of their foals, it took sire's second listed.
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prettypegasus wrote:

So I have this horse whose breed order is KWPN 37.5, Aussie Pony 37.5 and Selle 25. It has a twin with reversed breed order Aussie, KWPN, Selle. I made the linked horse the dam and the twin the sire, but I got KWPN foals. I tried switching the sire/dam (which is their current sexes) and still got KWPN foals. I'm wondering why this is?

I'm not familiar with breeding those particular percentages, so I don't have any horses of my own to look at as examples. It's tricky to pin down which slot the foal is taking from since the parents both have all of the same breeds, so you almost need another stallion with breeds listed in a different order than the one you currently have to test. However, if you did already try changing which is the sire/dam and they all took KWPN, it's possible there are further numbers behind the KWPN's decimal we can't see, which makes KWPN more dominant than Aussie Pony.

Best example I can provide for the above are these two foals born to the same parents. One parent had Shetland at 50%(with some other breeds), and the other parent had Quarter Horse at 50% (with some other breeds). I wanted a Shetland, but both foals were Quarter Horses even after I Bolted the parents to switch up who the sire was.
Foal A with Shetland as the sire.
Foal B with Quarter Horse as the sire.
I could never get a Shetland, so my guess is that the Quarter Horse was slightly more dominant in the genetics.

There is currently a possible issue with breed determination that I've reported. Normally, two parents that are 25/25/25/25 of all different breeds should result in the foal taking the sire's second listed, but all of the ones I bred the other day took the dam's first. I haven't had issues breeding other percentages, so I don't know if that's at play here, or if it's typical for pairing those percentages. I may try breeding those horses above again just to see.
legacy ann
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I have a current crossbreeding project.
Contrary from everyone else appearing to crossbreed for skills or competitions, I'm breeding what I'm calling 'realistic mustangs'. Basically mustangs made up of many different breeds but so the dominant one is always mustang. I am also treating them like they might be realistic 'wild' mustangs meaning rides get done and some training to boost skills and keep some quality in the foals but they don't get tacked up. I'm also keeping them like they are a band of mustangs, one stallion to a certain amount of mares, then on top of that again, I'm keeping them NIB, all of the mares and fillies are related but the stallion is not.
It's just a fun little project.

Anyone got any suggestions of breeds that could be good to try and cross in?
midnight stargazer
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midnight stargazer wrote:

Anyone got any suggestions of breeds that could be good to try and cross in?


Florida Cracker - Barb x PSH x Stang

Choctaw Horse - Stang x Florida Cracker
moonrider1691
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I am interested in breeding a fjord cross. Any recommendations on what to cross with? Thank you!
cappirox
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Cappirox wrote:

I am interested in breeding a fjord cross. Any recommendations on what to cross with? Thank you!
Something I've seen done before is Fjord x Arab, which would be nice at XC. It really depends what you're looking for, though. If you're looking for a non-comper, Fjord x QH is a useful cross in real life.
lovetopaint
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Cappirox wrote:

I am interested in breeding a fjord cross. Any recommendations on what to cross with? Thank you!


Fjoreke - Akhal-Teke x Fjord

I haven't tried this combo, but it was one added by another player in my Crossbreed List.
moonrider1691
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what would be the best mix for top dressage results?
juliagaul
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Does anyone have any suggestions for what to cross with this girl? I'm open to pretty much anything, and just trying to find what kind of horses I'd like to breed.
local rat
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local rat wrote:

Does anyone have any suggestions for what to cross with this girl? I'm open to pretty much anything, and just trying to find what kind of horses I'd like to breed.
I'd do KWPN for higher GP and keeping skillset similar.
lovetopaint
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Hi everyone! Im new to crossbreeding and I was wondering if someone could explain to me how I determine what breed the offspring will be? Im breeding a series of horses together and am hoping for the final horse to come out as a Chincoteague Pony, but Im not too sure how to do it ! Thanks!
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Angels_With_Paws wrote:

Hi everyone! Im new to crossbreeding and I was wondering if someone could explain to me how I determine what breed the offspring will be? Im breeding a series of horses together and am hoping for the final horse to come out as a Chincoteague Pony, but Im not too sure how to do it ! Thanks!

Mare of breed A x stallion breed B = foal will show as breed B.

Mare that is 50% breed C and 50% breed D x Stallion 50% breed E 50% breed F = Foal will be the stallion's SECOND LISTED breed (or the sire's sire).
lovetopaint
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Because the breed order is random in even crosses, the sire's sire isn't always the second listed breed.

The two horses below are both 4-way, Gypsy Vanner dominant crosses, but I used different parents.
Flouncy's Gypsy Vanner genes came from the paternal grandsire, while Coconut's GV heritage came from the paternal granddam. Both sires did have GV listed second.

I had a Newfie project that made me breed my mare to a T.Walker a few times so I could get the breed order I needed. 2 of her five foals were T.Walker x Newfie, while the other 3 were Newfie x T.Walker.

I'll sometimes breed a test foal, especially if I want to use Tears, just to make sure nothing goofy happens.
legacy ann
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This 25% four way cross breed predominance thing is kind of strange, I have two 50% Appaloosa/Quarter Horse stallions, the appaloosa throws quarter horses and the quarter horse throws apps when bred to a 50/50 mare (any 2 breeds), exactly the opposite of what I was expecting but I guess that's how the game works! Nothing like breeding a quarter horse to a PSH and getting an appaloosa!
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skylark wrote:

This 25% four way cross breed predominance thing is kind of strange, I have two 50% Appaloosa/Quarter Horse stallions, the appaloosa throws quarter horses and the quarter horse throws apps when bred to a 50/50 mare (any 2 breeds), exactly the opposite of what I was expecting but I guess that's how the game works! Nothing like breeding a quarter horse to a PSH and getting an appaloosa!

Is this one of the stallions? That one should give you Appaloosas because that's listed second in his genetics.
legacy ann
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Does anyone have an idea of what would be good to cross with a female Lusitano in order to have a chance of getting rosettes in any competitions? Thanks
huffpuff
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I'm interested in breeding Nokotas to be dressage horses. Does anyone have a suggestion on how I could best breed them?
quantumland
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Hello! Can anyone advice a crossbreed good in dressage and without Lusitano in it?
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Quantumland wrote:

I'm interested in breeding Nokotas to be dressage horses. Does anyone have a suggestion on how I could best breed them?
Cross with Lusi and go from there! Lusis are really good at dressage.
Buzz wrote:

Hello! Can anyone advice a crossbreed good in dressage and without Lusitano in it?
I'd go for something with Lippi and/or Nokota.
lovetopaint
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HuffPuff wrote:

Does anyone have an idea of what would be good to cross with a female Lusitano in order to have a chance of getting rosettes in any competitions? Thanks
The main thing will matter what GP the other stallion is. If your mare has very high GP already, and you cross with something equal or better, I'd go with Knab if you wanted to have a skillset for trail comps, but there are a lot of ways you could go with it.
lovetopaint
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That moment when you're trying to remember why you bred a random cross.

Selle x Morgan cross
moonrider1691
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https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=59720671

I did this as a "play-around" horse

Sorry guys I forgot how to do links
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eaglespirit wrote:

https://www.howrse.com/elevage/fiche/?id=59720671

I did this as a "play-around" horse

Sorry guys I forgot how to do links
What a cutie!! I love the skillset, has the potential to be good at all-around and nice for those objectives that want you to win a certain type of comp!
lovetopaint
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thanks....I was setting him up to be a trot comper but decided to bold him up and see what he can do.

The next challenge is to find the right mare to breed a complete all-rounder.
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