[Info] Cross breeders

Finally a post just for us cross breeders. The purpose of this topic is for cross breeders to have a place to discuss their crossbreeding programs and to share crossbreeding secrets and advice with others who may be interested in giving crossbreeding a try. Feel free to talk about your crossbreeding programs and your achievements and failures in crossbreeding.
Please remember to follow the rules of the forum and be informative and helpful. default smiley :-))

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zepharo
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Phoenix- you’ll probably want a much higher GP horse to start with

I’ve been breeding cross country skillers lately, one is second in Arabian jump, I love Arabian, GV crosses
snvsiv
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SNVSIV thanks for the help!
phoneix
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Anyone have any fun examples of Mawari Crosses?
kitcat
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kitcat wrote:

Anyone have any fun examples of Mawari Crosses?



I've got some!!
Vanner x Marwari marwari dom

Marwari x TH wari dom (this one didn't do as well)
sherwood02
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Hey everyone,

What do you guys think of my new WalkerSelle cross?

Cazmion
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I'm new to crossbreeding and this is the first time I've ever tried it. On my previous account from years ago, I only bred pure Arabs. I didn't think you could improve the skill of a breed that was naturally bad at it (eg. galloping in Shagyas). I thought a crossbred's best skills will follow it's dominant breed. Until I noticed that my first Anglo-Arab (1/2 TB, 1/4 Arab, 1/4 Shagya), Abyzou's best to worse skills are as follows:

1. Gallop
2. Dressage
3. Stamina
4. Speed
5. Jumping
6. Trot

When the best to worse skills of a typical purebred TB is

1. Gallop
2. Speed
3. Dressage
4. Stamina
5. Jumping
6. Trot

My mind is blown.

TBs are best for gallop races in the classical discipline, but it seems like Anglo-Arabs (even with TB as the dominant breed) are best for reining in the western discipline. Wow. If I had known crossbreeding was this great, I would have done it sooner.

Is it possible to produce a breed that is almost equally good in all skills?
misstressserpentia
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MisstressSerpentia wrote:

I'm new to crossbreeding and this is the first time I've ever tried it. On my previous account from years ago, I only bred pure Arabs. I didn't think you could improve the skill of a breed that was naturally bad at it (eg. galloping in Shagyas). I thought a crossbred's best skills will follow it's dominant breed. Until I noticed that my first Anglo-Arab (1/2 TB, 1/4 Arab, 1/4 Shagya), Abyzou's best to worse skills are as follows:

1. Gallop
2. Dressage
3. Stamina
4. Speed
5. Jumping
6. Trot

When the best to worse skills of a typical purebred TB is

1. Gallop
2. Speed
3. Dressage
4. Stamina
5. Jumping
6. Trot

My mind is blown.

TBs are best for gallop races in the classical discipline, but it seems like Anglo-Arabs (even with TB as the dominant breed) are best for reining in the western discipline. Wow. If I had known crossbreeding was this great, I would have done it sooner.

Is it possible to produce a breed that is almost equally good in all skills?


The joys of crossbreeding. It is possible, but requires a good amount of math and breeding several generations.
moonrider1691
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MisstressSerpentia wrote:

TBs are best for gallop races in the classical discipline, but it seems like Anglo-Arabs (even with TB as the dominant breed) are best for reining in the western discipline. Wow. If I had known crossbreeding was this great, I would have done it sooner.
Is it possible to produce a breed that is almost equally good in all skills?

Yep, with breeding any horse, the genetics of the foal are *roughly* the average of the parents. It's all based on the numbers, rather than the dominant breed. I like breeding Gypsy crosses with really high speed (which is a purebred's worst skill), because they're great in comps. Here's my latest Gypsy cross, Flouncy

You can breed a horse with fairly evenly distributed skills. My first all breed horse is as close as I've come without purposely trying.
All Breed 2016.

And aside from dressage, Jamie Fraser has evenly distributed skills too.
The issue with evenly distributed skills, is that most purebreds have skills targeted for a specific competition, so the majority of their genetics are thrown at 3 particular skills. I could enter Jamie into a trot competition for horses with similar trot skills, but he's at a disadvantage against purebreds because they're likely to have much higher dressage and speed than him.

You can still have an all rounder horse, but I just wouldn't breed it to have evenly distributed skills. Having really high speed, dressage (and stamina if you'd like), allows you to target low level trot, gallop, showjumping, as well as some western comps if you have a VIP perk to change specialty at any age.
legacy ann
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I intend to breed an all rounder of my own just for the novelty. I know that all rounders are out classed by purebreeds with specialty skills, still it would be fun to try and produce an all rounder with around 12k GP. What are some of the best all rounder breed combinations?
misstressserpentia
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Is it possible to breed a horse with 1 mare and 2 stallions? I am new to this and I dont just want to breed with 1 mare and 1 stallion.
malmal
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Malmal wrote:

Is it possible to breed a horse with 1 mare and 2 stallions? I am new to this and I dont just want to breed with 1 mare and 1 stallion.


Could you be more specific? Are you meaning like breed Stallion A to Mare A, age Mare A to foal and then breed Stallion B to Mare A?
moonrider1691
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I am taking a break from howrse, but I would like to eventually breed a rosette cross, what would I need to do?
the khaleesi
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I'm being good, I swear it! *breeds pure Morgans to different breeds to try starting up Western Morgan project* How'd that happen? default smiley (a)default smiley (6)
moonrider1691
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Are there any good Lusitano crosses that win rosettes??
sᴜᴘᴇʀɴoᴠᴀ
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The Khaleesi wrote:

I am taking a break from howrse, but I would like to eventually breed a rosette cross, what would I need to do?

Like with purebreds, you just need a horse with high enough skills. I pull up a spreadsheet to help calculate my potential foal's genetics based on the parents I input. I compare the foal to the current top purebreds that tend to dominate each comp.

The rosette crosses I've had the best luck with are TBxAppy crosses (doesn't matter which is dominant) for gallop, and KWPNxSelle crosses (KWPN dominant) for show jumping. KWPNs are a breed that has rosettes for their breed only, and that's where I tend to win my rosettes for that cross.

It's theoretically possible to win rosettes with other crosses, because there are other breeds whose skills distribution would make a great cross when paired with another breed, but top GP isn't usually available to the public,so you won't get high enough stats. But the 4 breeds I listed above are typically quite easy to get a hold of.
legacy ann
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Pretty satisfied with mySelle/kwpn cross Marrow
lala erinn
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Thank you Legacy Ann!!
the khaleesi
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Any suggestions on what this guy might be good in? Thanks
warnv18
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warnv18 wrote:

Any suggestions on what this guy might be good in? Thanks


SJ, XC, or I wanna say Barrel with its really good stamina, dressage, and speed.
moonrider1691
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What is the best breed to breed Highland ponies with to create a beast Trail Class horse?? : HP dominant
sᴜᴘᴇʀɴoᴠᴀ
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sᴜᴘᴇʀɴoᴠᴀ
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Anyone know of any fun Lusitano crosses?
equestrian01
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I'm completely new to "competitive" cross-breeding. A lot of my mares are pregnant with foals where the sire is a different breed, purely for GP purposes, but I'd be very interested in any unusual crosses (good and bad!) anyone has. Any starting points for a complete newbie? Go-to breeds to cross? Thanks very much in advance default smiley :)
smolgreen
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smolgreen wrote:

I'm completely new to "competitive" cross-breeding. A lot of my mares are pregnant with foals where the sire is a different breed, purely for GP purposes, but I'd be very interested in any unusual crosses (good and bad!) anyone has. Any starting points for a complete newbie? Go-to breeds to cross? Thanks very much in advance default smiley :)


Here's a list I have you can work with if you choose to.
moonrider1691
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I am looking for a mixed stallion with a gp over 12800, with no breed being over 49%, and top three skills are stamina, speed, and dressage. thanksdefault smiley :d
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