[Info] Cross breeders

Finally a post just for us cross breeders. The purpose of this topic is for cross breeders to have a place to discuss their crossbreeding programs and to share crossbreeding secrets and advice with others who may be interested in giving crossbreeding a try. Feel free to talk about your crossbreeding programs and your achievements and failures in crossbreeding.
Please remember to follow the rules of the forum and be informative and helpful. default smiley :-))

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zepharo
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Lolamarx wrote:

Ok so I'm just starting to consider crossbreeding some of my paints. I have a couple purebred paints with high GP however I cannot breed them anymore because all the offered coverings are lower than her GP and wont really help her offspring. That being said I have thought about crossbreeding but dont really know where to start. So what are some good options to crossbreed with paints. I've only ever done purebreds so I'm not sure where to start and does crossbreeding drop the price of the horses since they are not purebred?

I have a GV/Paint/Arab who is decent with Reining and WePl and a TB/Marwari/Paint Arab who is waffling between Barrels and Reining. I'm getting the feel and targeting would be helpful with paint crosses.
avanderloop
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Out of curiosity, how much effort and generations would it take to take a 50/50 line and breed it into a 51-60/40-49 line?

I am curious because I really like where my Legacy Project is but I am sick and tired of getting so many rejects since they need to be Fri dominant.
avh lover
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^

I just did some math and it would take 4 generations to get to a 56.25 Fri 43.75 KWPN cross.

I could then get there with the foal being a stud and remove all other studs from my breeding program. Then I would breed to my 50/50 mares and continue breeding the line which would leave me with foals with about 51-53% Fri blood; just enough to ensure Fri but not enough to skew the project completely.

My only issue is that if I do that, then it would be extremely difficult to add new blood every once and a while. Usually I add blood because, for the life of me, I cannot keep up even slightly with the GP race. That is why Bagheera is almost 5,000GP higher than the rest of my horses; I had found someone that was willing to breed me a specific cross of higher GP.

I could still add new blood every now and again, but I run the risk of eventually getting back to solid 50/50 crosses which I do not want.

I'm just not too sure what to do right now. Put the effort into removing all possible chances of rejects or just continue along with what I am doing?
avh lover
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Hi!default smiley :d Does someone have any suggestion of what to call a Haflinger/Thoroughbred crossbred as one breed?default smiley :) Hope you understand what I mean.default smiley :$
simsara
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AVH Lover wrote:

Out of curiosity, how much effort and generations would it take to take a 50/50 line and breed it into a 51-60/40-49 line?

I am curious because I really like where my Legacy Project is but I am sick and tired of getting so many rejects since they need to be Fri dominant.


I am working on that with my French Drummer line. I like the 50/50 Perch/Drum crosses for Western comps, but I don't like the looks of the Drum horses. I'm taking it down to 51/49, which will take 6 gens, but only three "foundation" horses; one pure Perch mare, one FI stud, and one F1 mare. I'm breeding the percentage foals back to the F1 crosses.
admyrrek
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SimSara wrote:

Hi!default smiley :d Does someone have any suggestion of what to call a Haflinger/Thoroughbred crossbred as one breed?default smiley :) Hope you understand what I mean.default smiley :$


Halfbred
admyrrek
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Or "Haffbred"
admyrrek
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ejmeek2001 wrote:

It is not certain what you will get unless you breed a PB GV (mare) and PB Friesian stallion.. Then, you will have a friesian foal instead of a gv foal


Actually,

Legacy Ann wrote:

Is this horse one of the foals?

I had a look at the parents, and the issue is that since they are both 50/50 of the same two breeds, the foals they produce will take the dam's last listed breed, which is a GV.

If both parents are 50/50 (or 25/25/25/25) of different breeds, then the foal takes the sire's second listed breed. If both parents are purebred, then that is when the foal take's the sire's breed.
moonrider1691
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Inquiry for those of you with long-term projects: Do you prefer sib breeding or back breeding?
hiraethau
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Hiraethau wrote:

Inquiry for those of you with long-term projects: Do you prefer sib breeding or back breeding?


Yes.

Whatever gets the job done the quickest with the highest GP when weighed against the inputs (APs, items, etc.). It's an incestuous little scheme here.
admyrrek
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Sent my very first crossbred mare to heaven today. She was a Paint/Arab who liked Barrels and Reining. Her name carrying and coat sharing daughter looks more like a cutter or galloper. default smiley :)

Windrunner II
avanderloop
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Hiraethau wrote:

Inquiry for those of you with long-term projects: Do you prefer sib breeding or back breeding?


I usually back breed. It all kind of depends on the purpose of your breeding, like AdmYrrek said. I'm going mostly for GP increase but also using different kinds of crosses so I typically back breed when I want to get back to a specific breed (Connies). I will sib breed if the genetics (type of breed mix and GP) would make for a better cross. Outcrossing is usually my go to just because I like to introduce new lines and new mixes.
warnv18
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Ugh, my TN Morgan is now stuck in a couple "rookie" comps that were before the changes. If anyone can get these running, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Comp 1 Comp 2
moonrider1691
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What breed would cross well with a Tennessee Walker?? I am wanting to cross breed a Tennessee Walker but make it a good skiller for English comps. But i don't know if i should use a Thoroughbred, KWPN, Selle Francis or if i should use a different breed. Any tips or advice??
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тнє ∂αякиєѕѕ wrote:

What breed would cross well with a Tennessee Walker?? I am wanting to cross breed a Tennessee Walker but make it a good skiller for English comps. But i don't know if i should use a Thoroughbred, KWPN, Selle Francis or if i should use a different breed. Any tips or advice??


You could try the selle which would get it in high sj comps, or you could try crossing with a paso for trot comps (and easy wins in lower gallop). But it depends on what comp your aiming for default smiley :)
sporky
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If anyone needs the skills for any horse breeds I have a list of all of them including drafts and donkeys.
superocelot02
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Any suggestions on which skill to beach? I'm thinking stamina or speed.

https://www.howrse.com/elevage/chevaux/cheval?id=58213437
sierrarc
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Hello!
I am trying to get back into activity on this server and will probably do a complete cleanout of my breeding farm and start over with some other decent GP horses. I am going to be focusing on crosses- anyone have suggestions for popular and/or profitable ones? Feel free to loop me into your breeding projects!
wolfcat111
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wolfcat111 wrote:

Hello!
I am trying to get back into activity on this server and will probably do a complete cleanout of my breeding farm and start over with some other decent GP horses. I am going to be focusing on crosses- anyone have suggestions for popular and/or profitable ones? Feel free to loop me into your breeding projects!


Any Prix breed will probably be pretty popular, especially for the Classical Prix races. Western comps don't seem to get the attention they deserve.
warnv18
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warnv18 wrote:

Western comps don't seem to get the attention they deserve.


They really don't. It's one of the main reasons I've shelved my Western Morgans for the time being. I remember having Barrel Racing alongside the Classical Comps many ages ago. My how times have changed.
moonrider1691
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Maybe looking to do a TB x Marwari Line? If anyone's interested, please contact me! (=
copperhorse
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just started playing a bit after years off the game.
still love cross breeding as much as i did years ago.

Thoughts on this cross? :P
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lala erinn
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Hey everyone!

I'm an old howrser who recently made a new account, so I'm trying to find a project or something like that to take my focus on here.

I'm interested in getting into cross breeding. Could anyone give me a quick rundown on it? Why do you choose to do it? Is it better than purebreds?

I'd really like to figure out a good western pleasure crossbreed as well, if anyone has some tips on that. I have several nice paint horses if anything could be done with that cross.

Thanks in advance!
soccer3238
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@lala Erin

Charming little crossbreed. Looks like a gallop/show jumper to me. I'm impressed with the skills but I'm also a novice cross breeder.
miketg
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soccer3238 wrote:

Hey everyone!

I'm an old howrser who recently made a new account, so I'm trying to find a project or something like that to take my focus on here.

I'm interested in getting into cross breeding. Could anyone give me a quick rundown on it? Why do you choose to do it? Is it better than purebreds?

I'd really like to figure out a good western pleasure crossbreed as well, if anyone has some tips on that. I have several nice paint horses if anything could be done with that cross.

Thanks in advance!


I have a list you can maybe work from. As to answer your questions; rundown? Meaning anything specific? I choose to do it just for the fun of it. I have had several different projects, sadly a good portion are shelved at the moment just due to lack of comps set specifically for them. I wouldn't say they're better than pures. Pures have their advantages of being, well, pure therefore their value in sales and the like are higher. But if I can take a pure and cross it with another horse, it can easily shine on its own by like say making a Gallop racing TB into a XC TB.
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