[Info] Blupping Info and Help

Regarding blupping your horses.

Many people have questions about what blup is and how to blup a horse. This thread is intended to help answer some of those questions.
Please feel free to join in and post any schedules that you may have that you have tested and found to work for you. All tips for all breeds are encouraged. We also encourage people to help each other with tips on how to get those elusive 20 wins that are required to get your horse to 100 blup.

The following is a little info about what blup is and what you need, to get to 100 blup.

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The BLUP is a genetic index. It plays a role in reproduction. It is therefore recommended that you select trained horses as reproducers and those that have excelled in competitions.
To have the best reproducers and have every chance of having the best foals possible, it is preferable to select horses with a high, or at least a positive, BLUP, i.e. mainly well trained individuals.

Blup starts at -100 and can reach +100 (that means that there are a total of 200 blup points available for every horse.)
You get 130 points for completed training in your best three skills, this includes rides and comps., the skill must go bold before this requirement is met.
40 points for reaching the age of 10
30 points for winning 20 competitions.
All these points are gained over time a little each day until you reach 100.
You cannot see the blup until you reach riding level 4.

If you want to read more about it, it is in the breeders manual under genetics
 
zepharo
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WhiteTiger wrote:

Ive recently taken up breeding Marwari Unicorns,

does anyone have a best way to blup guide for them??
to achieve maximum skills etc? (if this includes using BM's etc thats fine too)

would be sooo appreciative of any help! Thank you

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The schedule below will help with BLUPing. If you're looking to also get the maximum skills possible on top of that, this is what I would recommend adding:
1. Make sure to breed parents with 100BLUP to get max IBS (A. Tears are also good to use)
2. Make sure you complete foal games. This should be almost effortless to do as long as your foals are boarded in ECs with showers.
3. Do missions every single aging once the horse is old enough
4. Use a WoY, to get 2x as many missions (the only gain that doesn't get 1/2-ed with the use of a WoY)
5. Use as many pieces of cloud as you can (or a cloud pack) before your horse turns 25, again to get more missions.
6. (Probably obvious but I'll include it) make sure to bold the 3 skills that aren't in the top 3 as well.

Doing these, at age 25 your horse will have achieved its maximum skills. Keep in mind that after this, unless the horse has a P.stone, it will start to lose skills after age 25.

Doing all of this, your horse most likely will not quite be at 100 BLUP by 10 years old. If that's important to you, items such as a c. timer and a. heel will help remedy that. Or, if you don't really care because you're aging up to 25 anyways, then it doesn't matter.


Stamina/Speed/Gallop
Works for Mustangs and Mawaris
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Steps marked (Optional) are just that. They won't help with the BLUP, but they may help your horse get wins. Optional steps are more recommended for lower skilled/GP horses.

For rookie schedules, there will be a value "X." To find X, use the following:
X=rookie limit - (skill GP x 0.2)
The rookie limit can be found in section 2.5 of the equestrian center manual.
Skill GP being the GP for that specific skill (ie speed, dressage, etc) which can be found in the horse's genetics tab.

Classical
Board in mountain ec
Foal games (optional for BLUP)
Mountain rides until training is available
Train up speed (no higher than X {see above} for rookie, fully if not)
(Optional) Train dressage (no higher than X {see above} for rookie, fully if not)
Enter (rookie) gallop comps until no gains
(Optional) Train jumping (no higher than X {see above} for rookie, fully if not)
Enter (rookie) cross country comps until no gains
Finish training speed, stamina, and gallop and finish mountain rides
Do forest rides (switch to forest ec if you can)
If wins still needed, try trot comps
Age to 10

Western
Board in forest ec
Foal games (optional for BLUP)
Forest rides until no gains
Train up stamina and gallop (no higher than X {see above} for rookie, fully if not)
Enter (rookie) barrel comps until no gains
Finish training speed, stamina, and gallop and do mountain rides (switch to mountain ec if you can)
If wins still needed, try western pleasure comps
Age to 10
runnride25
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Does anyone have a BLUP schedule for Camargues please? default smiley ^)
kia
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Kia wrote:

Does anyone have a BLUP schedule for Camargues please? default smiley ^)


There is one on page 361 of this forum, near the top.
unknown1
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I'm pretty confused.

I looked at my horse (Racine, if you want to see) today and the window saying 'Congratulations, your horse has reached 20 wins' popped up, so I expected that she'd be fully blupped, but she only has around 75. She's 16 years old, has won her 20 comps and all her skills are bolded, so why is she not blupped?
twistedlies
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TwistedLies wrote:

I'm pretty confused.

I looked at my horse (Racine, if you want to see) today and the window saying 'Congratulations, your horse has reached 20 wins' popped up, so I expected that she'd be fully blupped, but she only has around 75. She's 16 years old, has won her 20 comps and all her skills are bolded, so why is she not blupped?



Try aging her. If she won the comps at this age, she needs to be aged once to have the wins count towards her blup.
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gumplife13 wrote:

Try aging her. If she won the comps at this age, she needs to be aged once to have the wins count towards her blup.


Oh, thanks! I didn't know that. Have a great day! default smiley ^)
twistedlies
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Does anyone have a Drum Horse schedule please? Especially considering their low skills and so few breed specific competitions running. Many thanks
hawkmartian
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Thank you so much for your help RunNRide25 default smiley (l)
super helpful and in depth explanation! much appreciated default smiley (ow)
whitetiger
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Anyone have the Arab training schedule
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Here is a really good schedule for any reining breeds.
Top three skills are
Stamina, gallop & dressage

Do foal games
Forest rides for full skill gain
Completely train all three skills (all of them)
Enter reining comps until full skill gain
Enter low difficulty barrel races until full skill gain
Mountain rides for full gains

Enter barrel and western as needed for wins
chèrie
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Hello, i'm kinda new to blupping and i'm trying to work on the Lusitano breed. Does anyone have any guide I can follow? I'm just a little confused and any help would be very much appreciated default smiley ^)
blueberry~pancakes
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Never mind I think I've figured it out!
blueberry~pancakes
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I'm going to throw a little info in here that I haven't seen mentioned in other areas. Not in full, at least.

Stroke - The lower your horse's energy, the more Stroke gives back. Therefore, it is most useful when your horse dips below 20%.

Feeding - Offers the most benefit when the horse's energy is higher. 75-80%

If I have a horse that I'm dedicated to BLUPping, I get a Nyx pack.

The Nyx star lets your horse get in an extra two hours of training.
Achilles' Heel lets you use up all the horse's energy without penalty.
Philotes' Stroke *can* be helpful, but I rarely use it if I have Achilles' Heel, because the time it takes up doesn't always make it worth the energy you get back.

Once the horse can do rides, I send it for an hour long ride.

Then I feed it whatever amount of fodder is recommended, plus whatever amount of oats get it as close as possible to 100% energy. Also, feeding early ensures that I don't accidentally run out of time and have to put the horse to bed without food. I know they're just pixels, but it makes me feel so bad! LOL

Then it's either the maximum amount of riding, or it's two training sessions (3 if it's dressage).
Then Stroke, Mash, Drink (if it's in a stall with a water trough because that gives back 8 energy), Carrot.
I only use up a Mash and Carrot if there will be time afterwards for maybe another ride or training or competition.
This is *only* if the horse has Achilles' Heel. Otherwise I stop before the horse goes below 20%, of course.

This is the method I've come up with to get as much training into a single day as possible.

I don't apply a Water of Youth until a horse is fully trained because it halves the training speed, basically nullifying a Chronos' Timer by doubling how many times you have to age the horse to get the job done. I know it *technically* doesn't nullify the Chronos' Timer, but you end up having to feed the horse twice as much, and age it twice as many times etc., which is just too frustrating for me, personally.

Granted, this allows you to complete more missions, but I prefer to complete the training sooner. That's a personal preference, though, based on the fact that, while missions do add to skill by tiny amounts, they don't appear to count towards blupping, so I don't worry about it unless I need the comb, hoof pick, or tub of grease for the competitions.

When it comes to training, I do:
~1 hour ride
~Feed
~Train secondary and tertiary skills, either 2 of the same one, or one of each.

Once rides no longer offer a benefit, I start the day with a single competition before feeding to drain a little energy and make the most of what you get from feeding. Sometimes I enter competitions even if the rides still offer a benefit, but I haven't really analyzed my own reasoning behind when I do that, so I can't be more specific.

Otherwise, I do missions and competitions mostly as I feel like it, relying on general luck for competition results, since they are mostly being entered to increase the skills. I kind of figure I'll hit the 20 wins when the computer decides.

I train the primary genetic trait 3rd. So, for my thoroughbreds, I train speed and stamina first. I enter competitions to increase all three main skills. (I don't really know whether that is beneficial to the competitions. That is the impression I got from reading other guides.)

Then I train up in Gallop.

Then I train the remaining skills just when I feel like it. But I do try to have the training complete by the time they are 10 years old so they can hit 100 BLUP as soon as they have 20 wins.

So. I'm interested to hear feedback on my process. Is my reasoning good? Does it seem effective? What might work better? Is there a more concise way of explaining my process? I'm open to Messages if you don't want to post your thoughts here.

Cheers!
Em
emerald01
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Newfoundland pony BLUP schedule?
marshyandima1109
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ok so this is my first time trying to blup an horse, and i am at a point where i am confused what to do. All the skills of the horse are bold even the rides and it has 20 wins as well what do i do now to get it to 100 blup....?
mutual
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sry i forgot to mention the link to the horse in the above post. this is the horse

https://www.howrse.com/elevage/chevaux/cheval?id=61305825
mutual
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mutual wrote:

ok so this is my first time trying to blup an horse, and i am at a point where i am confused what to do. All the skills of the horse are bold even the rides and it has 20 wins as well what do i do now to get it to 100 blup....?


Your horse is 7yrs and 10mths of age, the horse need to also have bolded jumping and speed as well as have the horse 10yrs of age to go 100 blup.
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how do i know if a skill is bolded or not...?
mutual
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mutual wrote:

how do i know if a skill is bolded or not...?


Look at the dressage skill, its bolded and the other two need to go like that. So make sure you have done all rides except beach rides. And that you have entered enough comps appropriate to those skills that they have stopped gaining skills from those comps. Does that explain things?

If you are still stuck, message me as I used to be on one of the top SF teams and this breed is one of the easiest to do.
bronze1983
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Just curious if my way of doing things is actually the most efficient as far as time/energy consumption goes...I usually feed a very small amount of fodder first thing to go from 94% energy to 100% energy, groom, then rides/training/comps/whatever to 0% energy, then stroke, mash, drink, carrot, in that order, feed another very small amount of fodder + the maximum amount of oats, do activities again to 20% energy or 22:00, whichever comes first, then put to bed/age. I can normally get my blups' top three skills bolded + 20 wins by the age of eight and a half by doing this, with a shower/water trough but no actual BM items.
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What else can I do to get wins on these? Am so tired of 2nd and third places. I always throw a lower skilled filler in with them and enter comps for low skilled horses.

https://www.howrse.com/elevage/chevaux/cheval?id=45570225
https://www.howrse.com/elevage/chevaux/cheval?id=45918902
mortyar
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mortyar wrote:

What else can I do to get wins on these?


Original Foundations are so hard to get wins. The best way would be to pair up with another player to help - they'll enter two fillers as well. You will pick a race where there is only one low skilled entrant and that will guarantee a win. I'm happy to help out, just drop me a PM and maybe we can coordinate.
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This may have been answered elsewhere, but do personal trainers affect BLUP? I bought a gelding that had all of its training completed (I assume by a personal trainer) and it's BLUP score still says it's missing 2/3 skills completed... does a personal trainer rid your horse of ever having a 100 BLUP?
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WingsofKynareth wrote:

This may have been answered elsewhere, but do personal trainers affect BLUP? I bought a gelding that had all of its training completed (I assume by a personal trainer) and it's BLUP score still says it's missing 2/3 skills completed... does a personal trainer rid your horse of ever having a 100 BLUP?


Top 3 skills need to be in bold font. If the training is finished, he either needs more rides or more competitions to finish gaining the third skill.
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WHAT IS THE BEST Way to blub a mustangs?
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